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Post by scoOter on Oct 11, 2007 11:25:27 GMT -5
love it to an unhealthy degree.
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Post by scoOter on Sept 22, 2007 8:53:07 GMT -5
this sounds a bit like the "fakebook" event many of us went to a few months ago. which is fine by me.
oh, for any one interested, i am going to the craft thingy now.
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Post by scoOter on Sept 19, 2007 8:56:08 GMT -5
Anyone know what happened with the release date of the mats reissues on Rhino that were once scheduled to be released around this time? you don't have them yet? oh man, they are awesome. |
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Post by scoOter on Sept 14, 2007 9:32:57 GMT -5
i was working as an usher at a movie theater when 'tank girl' came out. i got to see it in full over the run (bits & pieces at a time). i remember being entertained by it, but i don't remember one detail about it to this day. i remember owning the soundtrack at one point, but i don't anymore.
basically, i remember it existing, but that's it.
the westerberg/jett collaboration, though, i have never, ever forgotten. so, for that reason alone, i [heart] 'tank girl'.
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Post by scoOter on Sept 13, 2007 7:54:41 GMT -5
Who suggested it? How did it come about? Why did they Do It? i don't know, but i am damn glad they did! |
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Post by scoOter on Sept 14, 2007 10:28:11 GMT -5
take cover. that last one might get you in trouble. I'll stand for Suicane. It's my favorite album of Paul's with or without the 'mats. I don't get why everyone thinks it's so sad. To me it's an album filled with a lot of hope that things will get better. there are a few tracks i don't like on suicaine, but there are a few tracks on every westerberg album (incl. the 'mats) that i don't like. overall, i like suicaine quite a bit. |
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Post by scoOter on Sept 13, 2007 12:13:19 GMT -5
And there are a lot of low points in the solo career - nearly whole albums, in fact [Dead Man Shake, Suicaine]. take cover. that last one might get you in trouble. |
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Post by scoOter on Sept 12, 2007 16:45:32 GMT -5
I won't vote, but comment, just to piss scooter off. I have my own PW best of, and MAts best of, and like them the same. Mats for a drunken Friday or Saturday but PW for the rest of the week. you dirty son of a bitch! and to think, you have been in my home! |
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Post by scoOter on Sept 12, 2007 15:05:48 GMT -5
my poll... it is deceptively complex. no more comments, though  i am only looking for data; not justification. |
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Post by scoOter on Sept 12, 2007 7:56:57 GMT -5
simple. yes or no. anonymous - no comments necessary. is the quality of paul's recent songwriting on par with his older songs? again, taken as a whole body, are the songs from 1992 - 2005 as good as 1980 - 1990?
i would like as many people as humanly possible to answer it. if you have all the 'mats stuff, and none or very little of his solo material, i think the appropriate answer should be "no"; unless you are someone who has not purchased any new music since 1991. in which case, don't take the poll. and go pick up some damn music!
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Post by scoOter on Sept 18, 2007 7:47:48 GMT -5
Hey Jim... could you come up with some kind of scientific name for a 4-hour boner? "morning - afternoon wood"? |
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Post by scoOter on Sept 11, 2007 14:55:19 GMT -5
ha! i hear it now. at first, i thought you were talking about the bad finger song.... bad finger... erectile dysfunction... bad fing... cialis.... there is a joke in there somewhere..... anyway, ugh. thanks for making me think of old men & their willies when i hear grandpaboy! |
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Post by scoOter on Sept 12, 2007 7:57:45 GMT -5
there's an interesting new poll....
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Post by scoOter on Sept 11, 2007 21:12:16 GMT -5
why the results on the poll, then? this is a bigger question than this thread can allow, i feel. kathy, give me the names & email addresses of everyone who took the poll, please. i have urgent business with about 400 westernerds. They asked me to tell you that they have all taken out restraining orders aginst you and they are holed up in their houses, listening to "Bastards Of Young" on an infinite loop. they can run, but they cannot hide... |
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Post by scoOter on Sept 11, 2007 20:30:10 GMT -5
god, i couldn't agree more with areg. i have been waiting for someone else to bring up gunshy. there is so much imagery in that one, and i would lovelovelove to hear about it.
nevermind, i wasn't trying to climb down your throat or anything. i was just shocked by what the poll results told me. it is very clear. the interesting thing is that the few people on who have posted on this thread have all espoused the idea that "his news stuff is on par with his old stuff".
why the results on the poll, then? this is a bigger question than this thread can allow, i feel. kathy, give me the names & email addresses of everyone who took the poll, please.
i have urgent business with about 400 westernerds.
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Post by scoOter on Sept 11, 2007 17:09:44 GMT -5
...New or Old, Paul is brilliant and I think everyone agrees with that. right... but... i mean... well, no, i don't think the data backs up that claim. i agree with what you are saying, but there are three (3) solo tracks in the top 20, and the bottom 20 is all solo material... well, except for message to the boys. but, yes, i do agree that it is great that his hand is better, and he is getting out, and i hope to hell i win the free passes. i am done trying to rouse the rabble over this matter... for now |
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Post by scoOter on Sept 11, 2007 16:48:34 GMT -5
...to understand Paul's music you need to know where it started and where he was coming from. What he has written in the last 5 years is a reflection of where he came from. His old songs hold up against anything new he has written. Those old songs have sculpted Paul into what he is today. i certainly do not want to speak for ms. mule, but i think she & i are riding a similar wave in our comments; maybe not exactly, but close enough. i think it bears mentioning, once more, that NO ONE on this board would question whether or not unsatisfied or here comes a regular are good songs. they are! they are Good Songs. without this great mats catalog, none of us would be together, and this cat, paul westerberg, would just be a weird shut in singer-songwriter. i am agreeing with you, nevermind, that his early songs inform his newer ones, and that many of them are as good as anything on stereo/mono. i think we both were just reacting the utter lack of positive response on the poll to his solo material. look at the results. check out the top 20, and the bottom 20. it is staggering how we obviously feel about his solo material. then again, maybe the poll is flawed (sorry, kathy). maybe the poll would only be legit data if we had to go through & rate EVERY song he has ever written. i'd spend the 20 mins to do it. still, i think this sampling poll indicates what would probably happen. |
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Post by scoOter on Sept 11, 2007 14:37:31 GMT -5
Even though I disagree with you guys on this (I'll never not want to here Bruce do "Blinded By The Light" or Paul do "If Only You Were Lonely"), it's nice to see some old faces posting again. i want to be really clear: i DEFINITELY want to hear paul play some mats songs. i just don't think he should haveto play mostly old mats songs to keep us happy. and judging by the poll (again, it's us. it's our opinion.) if we had our way we would have him do just that. there is no other way to read the results. and i, for one, found that surprising & somewhat troubling. |
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Post by scoOter on Sept 11, 2007 14:06:05 GMT -5
Paul's output to date is pretty equally divided between solo and Mats stuff oh, indeed, but the poll isn't divided this way... if it were, we would see a top 10 that was fairly 50/50 mats/solo. instead, the top 10 is ENTIRELY mats, and the rest of the poll is pretty heavily weighted to the mats as well; until you get to the mid-late sections. the mats resoundingly "won". now, this is on the basis of fans' voting, and that is fine, but it says something about what we, collectively think of the solo material i think. again, though, i LOVE the mats material, and i am sure there are great stories to tell about "alex chilton", but i think i would REALLY like to hear more about "23 years ago" & "baby learns to crawl" in 2007. there are no casual paul fans at this point. i doubt there ever were, really. i think a lot of us have already heard the "how did vomit get on the ceiling" & "tommy ramone was deaf when he recorded 'tim' for us" stories. i am not doubting anyone's "fandom", or comparing mine. i am just drawing some conclusions that i wasn't ready for, to be perfectly frank. |
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Post by scoOter on Sept 11, 2007 12:47:44 GMT -5
In any event, thank god that Paul is such an asshole that he won't give this poll a second thought and will play/talk about whatever he damn well pleases.  god, i hope you are right. these results, from a poll taken almost exclusively by people on a (tiny) handful of incestuous paul westerberg boards, sort of frighten me for two reasons: 1. i can virtually guarantee that most poll responders were not considering which songs had the best "back stories". they just voted on their favorite songs. for every "alex chilton" that got a 10, an "angels walk" or "my daydream" got a 2 or 3. 2. i'll bet there are good stories to tell about the last 16 years, too. if you are keeping track, that is longer than the 'mats were around. are we really that predictable? i am not trying to criticize too much. i mean, i LOVE those songs a ton. a ton. i was just really floored by how much this poll indicated that paul's fans either do not know his solo material, or genuinely do not like it nearly as much as "i will dare". it was an eye-opener. |
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