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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 24, 2004 4:47:49 GMT -5
"Suicaine Gratifaction is also the first record on which Westerberg has been able to blend the music, lyrics and overall tone of each song into a seamless whole. Possibly the best example of this accomplishment is "Sunrise Always Listens," a song about staying up all night. "I've bored a sunset. And a lampshade. And a TV. And the bed. But the sunrise always listens ... and sometimes she even finishes my sentences." Beautiful." The quote above is from the article. I would like to meet this person. And I would like to punch that person. But that's just me.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 22, 2004 14:10:32 GMT -5
Thinking more about Sunrise... What the hell does this line mean? "But the Sunrise Always Listens and sometimes it even finishes my sentences" Those are exactly the kind of lyrics you'd expect from a guy holed up in his basement for years. He's so bored that he's talking to the furniture...and the furniture is bored. But I guess the "sunrise always listens." I'm sorry, I just vomited in my mouth.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 22, 2004 0:53:41 GMT -5
What's interesting is that it seems like nothing from DMS is making either list. Have people just stopped listening to that album altogether? I never started. I think apart from "Vampires & Failures" and maybe "Get A Move On" (since I'm feeling charitable) that DMS is a ready-made "worst of." Throw "Sunrise Always Listens" and "Never Felt Like This Before" on there and you've got a full album of shit I never need to hear again. "Sunrise Always Listens" is so bad that even Paul becomes audibly bored about 3/4ths of the way into the song.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 19, 2004 21:18:20 GMT -5
My favorite Lucinda duet is the one she did with Steve Earle on "You're Still Standin' There."
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 19, 2004 19:03:27 GMT -5
In other news, Norah Jones is having player piano rolls made of her songs ... why not Westerberg? Well the two most obvious reasons are 1) Norah Jones is wildly popular and Paul is not, and 2) Paul can't play piano for shit and Norah Jones can.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 19, 2004 21:14:13 GMT -5
It is interesting how he celebrates his own flubs, but can't tolerate any mistakes from his bandmates.
I never saw him bitch at Hill, but I do remember seeing him give drummer Steve Foley hell on the last Mats tour. The funny thing was that I didn't even notice the "mistakes" that Foley supposedly made. At one point Paul stopped "Can't Hardly Wait" to show Foley what he'd done wrong (Paul yelled and played air drums while Foley looked at him dumbfounded), and then they started the song back at the top with no discernible difference in the drumming. It would be ironic if Paul plans on keeping the same drill sergeant attitude when it comes to live performances of his recent work. Will he complain if his drummer doesn't play as badly as the recorded versions? "You're making mistakes in the wrong places! You're not supposed to fumble the fill until the next verse! And you're supposed to accidentally drop a stick and THEN knock over the mic stand, not the other way around, you idiot!"
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 19, 2004 19:07:54 GMT -5
ouch. i would like to think there's something to explain that, but probably not. Maybe it was the sobriety. Except that Paul wasn't sober on the 14 Songs tour. He was still knockin' em back at the show I saw. I think he was sober on the Eventually tour though.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 17, 2004 14:25:03 GMT -5
I wouldn't. I have no more interest in seeing a Mats "reunion" than I do in seeing Paul solo or Tommy solo. So you're only interest is in seeing Paul play with anyone other than Tommy, Chris and Slim?
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 17, 2004 1:42:32 GMT -5
And pass this message along too:
HELL YES!!!!! Paul needs Tommy to give him a kick in the ass. A lot of us might hate the idea of a "Filthy Lucre" style reunion in theory, but if it happened it might be just the sort of jumpstart that would get Paul out of the basement and knock him out of his whiney doldrums. I mean, come on, who wouldn't want to see him back on that stage with Tommy, Slim and Chris? Why would it be so horrible to see your favorite band live again? Because they might cave under the pressure and not live up to the hype? That's what they did from Day 1! That's what they were good at. There's no reason for them not to go back and start fucking up again. It would be great.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 16, 2004 1:01:36 GMT -5
i have no idea, i'll have to trust you on this one. in my mind its paul's. I looked through a few word and phrase origin books at work and it looks like the all purpose "color me [fill in the blank]" phrase dates back to at least the 1960s. I couldn't find any specific use of "color me impressed" that I can point to, but there were numerous examples of color me this and color me that...healthy...pleased...jealous...beautiful...etc. And who can forget Color Me Badd? There were also a few mentions of British folk musicians in the '60s being particularly keen on the phrase.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 15, 2004 0:49:05 GMT -5
i am the queen of color me impressed, i use it all the time. it's funny when i hear my friends using it, because they have no idea where i got it. But it was a fairly common expression before the Mats song, wasn't it? I'm pretty sure Paul didn't make it up.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 17, 2004 1:46:52 GMT -5
Sometime around '85 a friend bought Let It Be because the cover looked cool. By the time the needle hit "Answering Machine" we'd both decided that we needed to buy every Replacements album that we could find.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 13, 2004 2:38:56 GMT -5
but the thing with singalongs for me is, that's how you know you've finally made it musically, when the sold out house sings the start of the song for you. Yeah, it's a great ego trip for the guy on stage, but it's torture for the people in the audience who'd rather not hear the drunken frat boys or the screeching Paul groupies.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 12, 2004 17:32:41 GMT -5
I hated the onstage sing-a-longs and the thing I hated most about the solo performances was that Paul was often drown out by hundreds of people singing along in the audience. I go to hear Paul sing, not the audience. Yes, I understand that you're excited and that you know all the words to every song frontways and back, but please shut the f*ck up.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 12, 2004 17:26:39 GMT -5
As far as his music (mats and solo, probably even more as a solo artist) being "self-referential", so are most confessional singer songwriters. I think the self-referential comment was made in reference to songs like "I'll Be You", where the Mats as a whole were commenting on their plight as a rock band. Of course Paul is self-referential in the sense that he writes songs about his own personal experiences, but I think ElegantMule was talking more about those songs that comment on his experiences in the music industry.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 12, 2004 1:22:47 GMT -5
Duh, You said MAKEUP first k, and aside from Rush, That guy from Men at Work with the eye, and Neil Young, "Un-goodlookers" don't count for much as being darlings of the media(see MTV)...BECAUSE OF THEIR LOOKS. Paul has all the attitude the young-Uns(hey, two UnPuns in this post honey!)are looking for, sans the tragically sad spray painted coat. But the best test in the world is this one. SOMEONE NAME ME AN UGLIFIED(female especially)COUNTRY MUSIC singer in the past fifteen years that sold anymore albums than Paul.............giveup?........THEIR AREN"T ANY!!! And don't try to give me this crap about ROCK musicians appealing(with their wallets AND hearts) more based on content and less on looks! Because apart from more rock musicians being social liberals than Republicans- who incidentally listen to the vast majority of Country Craptacular. PEOPLE VOTE WITH THEIR WALLETS. Please respond to this post with a list of ugly female country music women. Well, I'm not sure why you're asking for unattractive female Country musicians as a point of comparison, because last time I checked Paul was a man who played rock music. So if you want your "best test in the world" to actually mean anything at all, then you've first got to consider Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Hank Williams Jr, Norman Blake, Steve Earle, Ralph Stanley, Del McCoury, etc. None of those guys exactly qualified for pin-up status anytime in the last 15 years, and they've all sold more records than Paul. Do we even need to mention Melissa Etheridge? I guess when you're talking about Country music, you're really talking about the pop music that pollutes the Billboard top ten Country chart, but that's really irrelevant anyway, because we can make an endless list of ugly rock stars who have greatly outsold Paul's entire output. It's not just "Rush, that guy from Men at Work with the eye, and Neil Young." Have you seen the guys in The Darkness? How about Radiohead? Or Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Korn, Cypress Hill, or any of the multitude of other rap/rock clones? They're all fugly and they all sell way more than Paul ever has. Does anyone even know what the guys in Tool look like? Sorry, but Paul had more than a big nose standing in his way. The Mats were actually the closest thing to being the Incubus of their day. Who was their competition in the post punk pin-up department? REM and Husker Du? I'll give you Dave Pirner and Johnny Reznick, but I think that had more to do with their relentless power ballads than with their hair. And Paul did have the hair after all.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 13, 2004 2:36:33 GMT -5
The only album where the drums bother me is about half of ASD. I probably listened to it 500 times over 10+ years and one day it hit me. Really? In what way do they bother you? I mean, at least they're real drums played by a drummer with some talent for the instrument.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 8, 2004 0:53:34 GMT -5
1. Waiting For Somebody 2. Nowhere is my Home 3. Torture
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 7, 2004 3:23:31 GMT -5
I love how Elizabeth kicks off the thread by calling everyone idiots, but I'm the one who's an asshole for griping about the U.S. educational system. I apologized to A-Regular, and I'm sorry if my rant felt like an attack on his daughter. It wasn't. Obviously I misunderstood his initial post.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 5, 2004 23:46:19 GMT -5
Geesh...chill just a little. And hey, its her report so I imagine she spelled Woolf correctly. Anyway, she has since heard the song, and understands that it about her death/suicide. When she mentioned that she was doing a paper on Plath I mentioned there was a PW song related to the topic..it went from there. How would you imply that it has nothing to do with the subject? And why would you imply that the song is the bulk of her paper? Its just going to be used as an intro or exit..perhaps to show that she is still making an impact on today's writers? Why do I even mention it around here? Geesh. Sorry, I guess I momentarily turned into Elizabeth there. But what you're saying now is not what you wrote in your first post. What you said was, "My daughter is doing a report on Virginia Wolfe [sic] and Sylvia Plath, and is using Crackle and Drag as part of her presentation. And for what its worth, she picked out the authors before knowing what C/D was about.. I had to point out the coincidence." That sounds to me like she chose Crackle and Drag as part of her presentation before she knew it was about her presentation subject, and then you had to point out the coincidence. Now you're saying that you told her about the song after she told you about the report. Whatever. In the words of Iggy Pop, "Go read a book and fail a test."
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