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Post by anarkissed on Oct 15, 2014 22:20:18 GMT -5
What happens now? Maybe a DVD release of reunion performances for Christmas? I'm thinking a new studio release might be expecting too much...As would an actual Replacements tour of smaller venues...But, boy, even with all the logistical crap that would have to come along with that, with maybe smaller paychecks, I can't imagine they wouldn't enjoy playing something like a dozen shows before audiences that were specifically there just to see them...I'm o.k. with where we are now...I can't believe I got to see them one more time...But I'm a little depressed at the prospect of going back to five years of no news, where Tommy occasionally plays in Brazil with G n'R, and Paul puts out one or two download-only basement cuts...
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Post by watts on Oct 16, 2014 14:49:41 GMT -5
I think a DVD is more than likely, as they filmed most if not all re-union gigs. I'm going to predict the full Midway Stadium show (with accompanying CD), with DVD extras from other shows. Maybe in time for the Christmas cash-in. And a new album in the new year with some surprise club appearances (particularly in the Twin Cities) followed by a full theatre tour. If another tour happens I just hope Paul can stay on the sober side; might as well treat themselves as the R n' R royalty they are - play nicer venues, pretend to be "pros", even if it means charging a bit more for tickets. Remember this whole re-union thing is also in large part to help Slim.
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Post by Veets on Oct 16, 2014 22:39:19 GMT -5
100% chance of a DVD. I took photos from the front at a couple Riot Fest shows, and with that all-black backdrop the contrast was just stunning. And we saw plenty of Go Pro cameras around the stage. The only thing that could hold it up is if Otto Z. can't decide which parts to leave on the "cutting room floor" or recycle bin on the computer or whatever.
I've been watching a lot of Jools Holland on Palladia lately and I'm continually amazed at the level and diversity of talent he books. (if you don't know about his show, definitely look into it. )
I'd love to see the new Replacements lineup do a new album and then go on Jools. They could do one new song and then do a song with piano that Jools could join them on (he's a good pianist and loves playing on the show) . Maybe Androgynous or something. Androgynous would be awesome. I think Jools would eat that up.
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Post by anarkissed on Oct 16, 2014 22:48:16 GMT -5
Those Jools Holland shows kick ass...Not only the "diversity of talent he books", but the technical quality of performances are probably the best in the entire video industry...(For televised performance, David Letterman is not bad, either)...
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Post by Veets on Oct 16, 2014 22:56:13 GMT -5
Great point. They must have a half dozen cameras pointed at the performer(s), and someone with a great eye deciding which to choose for broadcast. There was a funny time a week or two ago when Jools got caught up because not all of the cameras got out of his way while he was walking to the next act. Of course, he was totally cool about it. T
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Post by matsrule on Oct 16, 2014 23:22:44 GMT -5
Can't wait for a DVD. Don't know how much they would cash in but I'm a buyer for a few....."
Christmas seems to soon for a really nicely produced set with all the extras
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Post by watts on Oct 17, 2014 11:02:10 GMT -5
Those Jools Holland shows kick ass...Not only the "diversity of talent he books", but the technical quality of performances are probably the best in the entire video industry...(For televised performance, David Letterman is not bad, either)... Yup, Jools' show is great, and indeed very high A/V quality. 'Rockpalast' (sp) in Germany is also very good, and I think they're still on the air. Great show for full gigs, lotsa great archival stuff on YouTube.
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Post by TomT on Oct 18, 2014 6:54:21 GMT -5
Can't wait for a DVD. Don't know how much they would cash in but I'm a buyer for a few....." Christmas seems to soon for a really nicely produced set with all the extras I think the time is right for this. Gotta strike when the iron is hot. (Is that the saying?) I'll put the over/under at Dec. 1st. And don't forget - the authorized Mat's story book comes out next year. 2015 could be a big year for the Mats.
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Post by raccoon on Oct 18, 2014 16:58:30 GMT -5
Opening slot for the Stones when their tour comes back to the states??
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Post by hootenanny58 on Oct 19, 2014 1:41:27 GMT -5
Opening slot for the Stones when their tour comes back to the states?? The economics of that - for the Mats and fans - wouldn't be too good. The band getting a pittance and the fans having to pay Stones prices for 45 minutes of stage time. For a Replacements tour, IMO, it would have to be new CD and/or reunion DVD promotion + headliner for it to make financial sense. Those four guys have been around long enough to understand how it works by now. I would understand their reticence when for years, they toiled night after night with little to show for it. I paid full price for all the records back in the day, but the most I ever dished out to see the Mats up until 1991 was maybe twelve bucks. Thinking back on that now - and from later comments from Paul and Tommy - neither Twin Tone or Sire did them any great favours, and if they were drawing two bucks a ticket from show attendance ... I'd say they don't have too many fond memories of the business side of labouring in dives. Meanwhile the music "business" has only gotten weirder. Today, all the money goes into these boy-/barbie-band Bollywood-type dance extravaganzas, 90 minutes of parading and flogging cosmetics, fashion and soft-drinks. It ain't about the music from what I can tell. I'd still jump on it if they did do a tour of small theatres and clubs, but it'd have to be done with a minimum of middle men and on their own terms. I'd be much happier to pay $40-50 for 90 minutes than $150+ for 40 (as Stones support). These guys are vets, no more delusions ... they know what the deal is.
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Post by hootenanny58 on Oct 19, 2014 1:57:40 GMT -5
I'd think that if a DVD was in the works, that something to that effect would have at least leaked out by now. Maybe they're in early days, a limited number of people - Paul, Tommy with some pre-production advice - going through all the raw footage; what makes sense; what's good. And they've still got a few dates to go before this round of festival gigs is done. But to have a video all produced, edited, packaged and ready to go by December? Maybe spring of 2015 at the earliest - if a DVD is indeed in the works.
BTW, a little off topic, but the latest Johnny Thunders bio will go to retail release next week. The usual on-line sales venues are taking pre-orders. Danny Garcia did a very good job on the Clash bio, so hoping he'll come through for JT. The Lech Kowalski one was interesting, but kinda slap-dash.
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Post by Otto Jr. on Oct 19, 2014 2:07:08 GMT -5
And they've still got a few dates to go before this round of festival gigs is done. Wha wha WHAT?!?!
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Post by anarkissed on Oct 19, 2014 7:08:53 GMT -5
And they've still got a few dates to go before this round of festival gigs is done. I believe last weekend's ACL show was the last announced date...
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Post by anarkissed on Oct 19, 2014 7:15:21 GMT -5
Opening slot for the Stones when their tour comes back to the states?? I'd still jump on it if they did do a tour of small theatres and clubs, but it'd have to be done with a minimum of middle men and on their own terms. I'd be much happier to pay $40-50 for 90 minutes than $150+ for 40 (as Stones support). These guys are vets, no more delusions ... they know what the deal is. I would certainly understand that economic and logistical concerns would have to be a part of it, but I guess I'd imagined, maybe somewhat naively, that they might just enjoy playing a few shows before audiences that were there specifically to see them...Not even some long, drawn-out year-and-a-half slog around the country...Twelve dates...
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Post by TomT on Oct 19, 2014 7:57:33 GMT -5
I'd still jump on it if they did do a tour of small theatres and clubs, but it'd have to be done with a minimum of middle men and on their own terms. I'd be much happier to pay $40-50 for 90 minutes than $150+ for 40 (as Stones support). These guys are vets, no more delusions ... they know what the deal is. I would certainly understand that economic and logistical concerns would have to be a part of it, but I guess I'd imagined, maybe somewhat naively, that they might just enjoy playing a few shows before audiences that were there specifically to see them...Not even some long, drawn-out year-and-a-half slog around the country...Twelve dates... They could play limited indoor shows in pretty good sized venues, maybe 5,000 seaters, and do 2 weeks here, 2 weeks there and make a nice profit. I also think they could get really good openers who would love to do it for very little. Lydia Loveless comes to mind. I think at this stage for them the small clubs might be out unless it's a tune up show for a larger tour.
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Post by anarkissed on Oct 19, 2014 9:53:23 GMT -5
Lydia Loveless/The Replacements...That would be killer...
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Post by davpel1 on Oct 20, 2014 9:27:06 GMT -5
Add me to the list of those who love both Jools and his show (huge Squeeze fan here). For me, the best part of the show is watching the musical guests watch each other perform. Seeing Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys look on while John Lydon and PIL play (and vice versa) was an absolutely priceless sight. There is a great photo floating around somewhere of Wilson and Lydon with their arms around each other from that taping. Two of my idols -- I would love to have been a fly on the wall for that conversation -- though, in fairness, there is always the question of whether Brian was actually "there" in that moment. The only thing that could have made the whole thing better is if Johnny had kicked Mike Love in the teeth!
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Post by anarkissed on Oct 22, 2014 22:48:42 GMT -5
Add me to the list of those who love both Jools and his show (huge Squeeze fan here). For me, the best part of the show is watching the musical guests watch each other perform. Seeing Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys look on while John Lydon and PIL play (and vice versa) was an absolutely priceless sight. There is a great photo floating around somewhere of Wilson and Lydon with their arms around each other from that taping. Two of my idols -- I would love to have been a fly on the wall for that conversation -- though, in fairness, there is always the question of whether Brian was actually "there" in that moment. The only thing that could have made the whole thing better is if Johnny had kicked Mike Love in the teeth! One of the (many things) that I always loved about John Lydon: I think "Johnny Rotten" was pretty much just a "a character" that he played...(Quite well)..."Johnny Rotten" wouldn't have been caught dead with his arms around Brian Wilson...I've experienced John Lydon as a guy who had a little broader awareness of modern pop music since Elvis, who's said nice things about somebody like Neil Young, and probably recognized that, you know, in 1967, somebody like Syd Barrett was maybe everything you ever aspired to be...He's not a complete asshole; he just played one on t.v....And I'm not sure how to actually give proper credit to someone who, frankly, has very little skill as a musician or vocalist...Well, it's because he's really more of a performance artist...Last I looked, there were a few perfunctory, poor quality clips of the Pistols performing on that last tour in, what '78? On YouTube... Which, for some perverse reason, are in places like Dallas and Atlanta...By this point, at least half, if not more, of their audience, are people who hate them, and are just there to shout them down...He faces those rednecks down with the most intimidating stare, with absolutely zero concession to their preconceptions, until they are stunned into awed silence...It is totally sloppy, completely unprofessional, only occassionally musically edifying, and perhaps the most brilliant live performance I have ever seen...Plus, whatever knock against their "musicianship" people ever wanted to have, Steve Jones and Paul Cook are tight as fuck...Sid? He don't screw up near as much as people pretended; but I wouldn't have ever told him he if he was...John Lydon-Mike Love? No contest...Frankly, I think I could kick Mike Love's teeth down his throat...He might be the one, single figure, in the entire history of popular music, that I hate...Why? 1)He's a dick...2)Give me six months (well, when I was 19-29) and I could've done every single friggin' vocal overdub he ever did on any fuckin' Beach Boys song...
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Post by brianlux on Oct 22, 2014 22:58:20 GMT -5
A DVD would be marvelous! Will definitely watch for it!
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Post by anarkissed on Oct 22, 2014 23:23:58 GMT -5
Did I geek out and overrate "S/M"? I'm sorry, I will concede any point detractors had about this ("it's just him in his basement/he sucks on drums/he uses the same riffs on more than one song/some of this shit cuts out before it's over)...But, not only do I think these are perhaps the best songs he's ever written (certainly post-Mats), but sometimes (when I'm really, really cranky - and a little fucked up) I declare this is among the greatest Top Ten Albums of All Time...I remember playing about three cuts off this for my ex-wife when this first came out...She had no reaction...Then wrinkled her nose...Then pronounced: "He's lost it"...Wow...That's when I realized: "Maybe I'm better off without her"...
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