Post by ClamsCasino on Oct 23, 2003 21:46:36 GMT -5
I love the alt. version best of all three. The bass and drums add so much to the song. The stripped down acoustic version on the DVD sounds too much like a Stereo outtake, but the alt. version fits in great with the rest of the album.
I think that the version from the DETROIT show is the best of any that I have heard.
Like any PW song though, I am liking the 2 on the CD better each time that I hear them.
I would like Paul to take the best songs from all of the bootlegs from the 2002 shows, throw them on a CD and put them out as a Live CD. I'd really just like to see him make a few bucks from it. Even though most of us have some of these CDs, I am sure that most of us would kick out 15 bucks for a CD that Paul would make a few bucks for his family.
Everytime I see someone selling a bootleg of Paul's shows or of the 'Mats on eBay, I want to send the seller a letter and ask them to send Paul his 'DESERVED COMMISSION' from their sale !!
I have a few excellent illegal pictures that I took at the Detroit show that I'd let him use for the cover !!
Post by crawlingkingsnake on Oct 28, 2003 23:37:36 GMT -5
For me it'd have to depend on what mood im in. when im a bit more somber i like listening to the dvd or alternate versions. but when im in a bit more of an angry mood the original take from the cd really suits me.
I love the rawness of the original take, but the lyrics and melody really pop-out on the alt. version. The original take is more of a Friday night version, while the alt. version seems more Sunday afternoon.
I'm glad that someone posted about this...I was real dissapointed with the album version. Crackle& Drag was one of my favorite songs from last years show.....and all year I've been listening to shows from various cities. IMO, the best version is from the Bowery Ballroom in New York, where Paul actually read the lyrics from his personal notebook (therefore not screwing up or forgetting the words!) larryt
Not to sound too gushy, but I love all 3 versions of this song. I agree with previous posts about the original take - very reminiscent of Lydon/Rotten/PIL. The drums and bass in the alt. version work surprisingly well, and the DVD version is the version that I came to love from last year's tour.
But the BEST version, IMHO, is the first time he played it live (I think) at the Portland in-store. It was the last song of a horrible set (this was the performance in which he gave the "bunch of f*cking bums!" version of Skyway).
He was in a crummy mood, and he played it very sparingly and slow w/ an electric. You can actually hear the gasps of awe from the audience. Intense - and the perfect setting for this wonderfully miserable song.
Post by torethatbridgeout on Nov 4, 2003 18:14:34 GMT -5
He played it at the Guthrie shows in Minneapolis that started the tour, but I had a friend at the Portland show who would agree with everything you said, except I think he got so disgusted he left and might have missed this song there.
Post by ElegantMule on Nov 19, 2003 0:50:39 GMT -5
The versions I heard at the first two Guthrie shows in Minneapolis took my breath away. The second night I took out my cell phone and called my best friend - ended up leaving that song on her voicemail. (I know - LAME.) But I almost cried that second night, it was so intense. I really don't like the album versions much, but I'll take them over nothing.
“The time has come for us to stop sticking our bayonets into each other, and start sticking our bayonets into space.”
I didnt get the chance to hear it live, but CD wise i enjoy the original take. Theres something more immediate and attention getting with it being 'plugged in'. Now i almost exclusively enjoy unplugged versions of all music over studio contrived finished products but not in this case...
" The Rolling Stones are playing in Philly tonight, but were better .. so F#&K Em ! " PW july 89
Post by torethatbridgeout on Nov 21, 2003 14:21:20 GMT -5
The Original Version intro: two seconds of the main musical theme and then bamm - "THE END". Sends chills up my spine. From that point on it rocks.
Have you tried laying out the words from both versions next to each other? Two completly different songs, kind of a variations on a theme by Westerberg.
I don't hear "THE END." I hear "A.M." Which I took as a radio reference without really thinking about it, but now I'm wondering if maybe it's "Am" like an A-minor chord.
I agree about the lyric comparison being interesting. Here's sumpin': In the alt. version, he says "you can't fix her with a cold stare, she's all broken inside." But on the original I think the cold stare is Sylvia's. He reworked it quite a bit, keeping some of the same words and images.