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Post by snickers on May 11, 2005 18:29:17 GMT -5
i love both, but don't know which i would choose as my favorite.
As Far As I Know often wins out, since it just blew the roof off the dump live.....(Gun Shy rocked live as well, however)
thoughts? please show your work.
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Post by FirstAveFiend on May 11, 2005 18:36:49 GMT -5
I'm agreeing with you on As Far As I Know. That song is so great live. As much as I wanted to see Gunshy live really really bad it just didn't hold up to As Far As I Know on stage. Which is where it matters most in my opinion.
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Post by snickers on May 11, 2005 18:42:15 GMT -5
yes, As Far As I know was so excellent live....
As Far As I Know is pretty perfect, in every way.
but there is just something so compelling about gun shy.
it captures that je ne sais quoi pw factor, if you know what i mean.
probably you don't, since what i said doesn't exactly make sense.
someone will be along shortly to help me out, i'm sure.
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Post by FirstAveFiend on May 11, 2005 18:44:27 GMT -5
yes, As Far As I know was so excellent live.... As Far As I Know is pretty perfect, in every way. but there is just something so compelling about gun shy. it captures that je ne sais quoi pw factor, if you know what i mean. probably you don't, since what i said doesn't exactly make sense. someone will be along shortly to help me out, i'm sure. No I know exactly what you mean. I love Gun Shy and thats why I wanted to hear it so bad. Just listening to it today I couldn't help but think how great the song was as a whole and how he had done every part himself. It so damn impressive. |
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Post by Cotton on May 11, 2005 18:56:03 GMT -5
I love the monster drumming of MB on AFAIK and KB's not so humble opinion comment carries a lot of weight. However, given the not so subtle shout out to A-Reg and I at the Chicago & Columbus shows and the whole "peeing/ "P-ing" on Ajax thing. I've got to stand by my girl.  Gun Shy for me, if I really, really had to. |
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Post by jlsgli on May 11, 2005 19:50:29 GMT -5
as far as i know it,is great but come on ! rock star ,fruit jar ,yellow snake in a can! what does it mean i don't know but i love it !
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Post by landshark on May 11, 2005 20:22:12 GMT -5
Voted for AFAIK because, well, it's a better song in the conventional sense of "better" -- but if I had to go to a desert island, I'd take Gun Shy.
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Post by FreeRider on May 11, 2005 20:44:18 GMT -5
Hmm, this is a tough one. I like AFAIK because of its poignancy and like landshark said, it's"better" in the conventional sense. Yet, I do like the angst and realization of one's growing older in a line like "I'm chasing middle age and I'm pacing in my cage tonite...". That whole restlessness of that imagery gives me the bloody chills. I dunno; I can't choose.  |
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Post by TomT on May 11, 2005 21:23:30 GMT -5
I like both of em but Folkstar was really great live too.
It's funny but Folker is really growing on me now that I'm hearing a lot of the songs live (on bootlegs). Now I wonder, How can you like him, etc. Great stuff indeed!
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Post by rankel on May 11, 2005 23:18:22 GMT -5
If we're talking about live performances I'll go with As Far As I Know. When I heard it I thought it was the beginning of the rapture--I thought the whole place was going to crumble down in a dionysian swirl. Yeah, it was really incredible...
I also heard Gun Shy in the 1st NYC show and, while it was a great song, it paled in comparison with the energy, response, and sheer power of AFAIK...
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Post by ElegantMule on May 12, 2005 8:32:56 GMT -5
I'm going to go ahead and say what y'all are afraid to say, AFAIK is prettier.  |
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Post by landshark on May 12, 2005 8:53:30 GMT -5
I'm going to go ahead and say what y'all are afraid to say, AFAIK is prettier. True, and maybe DEEPER too, which is pretty amazing for a pure pop confection. |
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Post by zook on May 12, 2005 9:00:15 GMT -5
As Far As I Know is pure, unadulterated ear candy and gets my vote. Gunshy has a killer riff and is great too but AFAIK gets me high.
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Post by A Regular on May 12, 2005 9:07:31 GMT -5
True, and maybe DEEPER too, which is pretty amazing for a pure pop confection. Come on, lyrically AFAIK isn't one of his better "yearning" songs. Besides, that is now a Michael Bland song, not a PW song. And I'll still with "chasing middle age......" though I really don't think I was "called out". Will concede that it was no contest at the shows... how about Gunshy-on record AFAIK -on stage |
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Post by paulie on May 12, 2005 9:43:26 GMT -5
as far as i know is an amazing song on wax, twice as good live. its up the with here comes a regular, skyway, can't hardly wait.
gunshy is one of those tracks that just gets better everytime
like talent show, born for me, eyes like sparks.
so the choice is obvious. they both rock.
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Post by landshark on May 12, 2005 10:15:43 GMT -5
Come on, lyrically AFAIK isn't one of his better "yearning" songs. Besides, that is now a Michael Bland song, not a PW song. And I'll still with "chasing middle age......" though I really don't think I was "called out". Will concede that it was no contest at the shows... how about Gunshy-on record AFAIK -on stage A-Reg, I'm a huge GunShy fan (and I thot it was good on stage, too, even if he forgot a bunch of lines in Boston), but on AFAIK I think the closing lines are pretty great at pegging the impossibility of attaining pure romantic idealism: That dream it came true But you never do No you never did As far as I know Or in other words, "be careful what you wish for"?? |
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Post by scoOter on May 12, 2005 10:25:09 GMT -5
sadly, i never had the chance to see gun shy live. as far as i know kicks me in the shins, though.
man, both are awesome. wish i would've gone to see the chicago or orlando show, though, to see gun shy. i was *this* close.
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Post by gravy on May 12, 2005 11:47:17 GMT -5
It's Gun Shy today but it could be As far I Know by sunday, That's why Paul is so great, different songs kinda just "hit" you on different days...
Gun Shy live was the Shizznit!
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Post by kgp on May 12, 2005 12:36:18 GMT -5
I'll be a boy today and go with 'Gun Shy.' (Isn't it the more 'boy' of the two?)
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Post by snickers on May 12, 2005 13:20:51 GMT -5
ok,
i listened to
as far as i know (again), and lyrically i think it is deeper than it might appear at first listen.
i think it might be about an idealized relationship....as opposed to the actual reality of the relationship/person.
like, being in love with the fantasy, made up, in your mind version of someone, as opposed to who they really, truly are.
has someone already said this previously? if so, my apologies.
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