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Post by gah on Nov 26, 2016 23:26:58 GMT -5
Kanye West is latest in a long line of Sacramento showstoppersThe Replacements (1985) The band’s performance at the UC Davis Coffeehouse is the stuff rock 'n’ roll legends are made of. Says longtime music journalist Jackson Griffith, “The entire band was so wasted that the only one standing was the late guitarist Bob Stinson, who had dropped trou and was standing in his boxing shorts playing the ‘Smoke on the Water’ riff while Paul Westerberg crawled around onstage moaning ‘We're gettin' arrested,’ which they did, for trashing the dressing rooms, and Warner Bros. Records had to send someone on a plane from Burbank with bail money the next morning.” According to news reports, the band never finished a single song. The next year, the band was banned from Saturday Night Live for similar shenanigans, although the ban was lifted in 2014, after nearly 30 years.
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Post by gah on Dec 15, 2016 18:26:42 GMT -5
Ken Tucker's Top 10 Favorite Albums of 2016The I Don't Cares, 'Wild Stab' Paul Westerberg and Juliana Hatfield collaborated on this rootsy rock 'n' roll album whose songs reach out and grab you. It's meant to hit your ears like garage rock — like basement tapes dusted off and tidied up — but not too much.
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Post by matsrule on Dec 20, 2016 21:13:35 GMT -5
Oregonian 50 overlooked bands for the RHOF
32. The Replacements
While not as widely celebrated for its impact on college rock and alternative music as, say, R.E.M., The Replacements aren't that far off. The band was able to turn punk rock into an emotionally driven art
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Post by leftofthedial09 on Jan 3, 2017 18:02:29 GMT -5
I was in Seattle the other day and some store played Favorite Thing. But now I can't remember where!
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Post by dee on Jan 4, 2017 22:27:49 GMT -5
I saw an old picture of Johnny Cash that looked like the one of Paul walking down the railroad tracks.Intentional?
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Post by anarkissed on Feb 1, 2017 4:25:08 GMT -5
This is everything you love and hate about this band...I think this is not only one of their best songs, but one of the greatest songs ever written in the history of human civilization...(Although it's a little weird to put this song and 'human civilization' in the same sentence)...
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Post by anarkissed on Feb 1, 2017 4:50:35 GMT -5
Just a couple side notes: To quote George Costanza: I have a staunch record of heterosexuality...But longhair Paul was sexy as fuck...I loved that look, at that time, when everybody else was shaving their heads...I was never really a big Bob guy...I started following this band when he was already on the way out ("Tim")...But, damn, that guy could rip some shit...He really sounds like no one else...It's like a combination of incredible technical skill filtered through somebody who doesn't really know what they're doing...I have never seen or heard anything like it...You don't know if he's a genius or a dumbass...But you're positively sure you couldn't do anything close to that, that nobody else could either, so you're just gonna shut up and let the guy play...Fuck...A lotta guitarists I hold in high esteem (Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Beck, Van Halen) you could sit down and study these guys, and maybe approximate a fairly adequate reproduction of what they do...There is no way in fucking hell you're gonna study Bob Stinson and sound like that...He was the only person on the planet, for all eternity, who was gonna sound like Bob Stinson...
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Post by anarkissed on Feb 1, 2017 5:16:20 GMT -5
Aw, what the fuck...Might as well mention Chris Mars...Has Paul ever really had a better drummer than this? Maybe more versatile...But on shit like this, he was driving the shit out of it...In my opinion, none of this would have worked without him...He is totally badass...Without him, this is just three guys and cacophany...What he's doing on just the snare drum deserves a fucking medal...I think sometimes guitarists and bassists don't realize the incredible demand of physical exertion that is demanded on your drummer...It's fucking goddamn boot camp Army Ranger shit back there...
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Post by FreeRider on Feb 2, 2017 11:35:26 GMT -5
I've always liked how Chris drove some of those tunes---Shootin' Dirty Pool, Red Red Wine, etc. Now maybe he wasn't skilled enough to do what Paul was hearing in his head on some of the later tunes, but the early stuff was fine, aggressive drumming.
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Post by Jer on Feb 2, 2017 15:29:58 GMT -5
I've always liked how Chris drove some of those tunes---Shootin' Dirty Pool, Red Red Wine, etc. Now maybe he wasn't skilled enough to do what Paul was hearing in his head on some of the later tunes, but the early stuff was fine, aggressive drumming. I always thought that Chris was a fine drummer for anything The Replacements ever wanted to do. There's nothing they did after he left that he couldn't have handled. Steve Foley was fine too, but I'm not sure he was any better than Chris. Just speculation, but I think the whole "Chris isn't good enough" thing was a front to the fact that they just weren't getting along and no one wanted (or had the guts) to fire him. They were really drifting apart, working together was difficult, and it was Paul's way of pissing him off so he would quit.
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Post by con on Feb 3, 2017 0:32:02 GMT -5
Just a couple side notes: To quote George Costanza: I have a staunch record of heterosexuality...But longhair Paul was sexy as fuck...I loved that look, at that time, when everybody else was shaving their heads...I was never really a big Bob guy...I started following this band when he was already on the way out ("Tim")...But, damn, that guy could rip some shit...He really sounds like no one else...It's like a combination of incredible technical skill filtered through somebody who doesn't really know what they're doing...I have never seen or heard anything like it...You don't know if he's a genius or a dumbass...But you're positively sure you couldn't do anything close to that, that nobody else could either, so you're just gonna shut up and let the guy play...Fuck...A lotta guitarists I hold in high esteem (Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Beck, Van Halen) you could sit down and study these guys, and maybe approximate a fairly adequate reproduction of what they do...There is no way in fucking hell you're gonna study Bob Stinson and sound like that...He was the only person on the planet, for all eternity, who was gonna sound like Bob Stinson... lol Bob in this video. Spotlight's on him. He's ripping the solo. Looks up, smirks, how ya like them apples
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Post by FreeRider on Feb 3, 2017 15:26:35 GMT -5
I've always liked how Chris drove some of those tunes---Shootin' Dirty Pool, Red Red Wine, etc. Now maybe he wasn't skilled enough to do what Paul was hearing in his head on some of the later tunes, but the early stuff was fine, aggressive drumming. I always thought that Chris was a fine drummer for anything The Replacements ever wanted to do. There's nothing they did after he left that he couldn't have handled. Steve Foley was fine too, but I'm not sure he was any better than Chris. Just speculation, but I think the whole "Chris isn't good enough" thing was a front to the fact that they just weren't getting along and no one wanted (or had the guts) to fire him. They were really drifting apart, working together was difficult, and it was Paul's way of pissing him off so he would quit. i hear ya....I'm not saying there was anything wrong with Chris' drumming. When I say 'wasn't skilled enough', I meant that he was not playing up to whatever Paul had in mind, not that he wasn't skilled. But it's just speculation on my part as well. Paul did recount that in the recording sessions for DTAS that they had to record some of the drum tracks by manually playing/recording OVER Chris' part with a drum machine because his timing was off. I think. Was that in the book? I mean, let's look at this way. What was so complex and intricate in Paul's later songs? Nothing! It wasn't like he was writing in odd time signatures, like 6/8 time or something and throwing Chris off. Essentially it's all just pound the snare on 2 and 4. Now, if Paul were writing oddball stuff like Pete Townshend, where there's syncopation and time signature changes, then yeah. I remember Townshend said that Keith Moon was great at what he did but he wasn't a good drummer. Meaning that for the style that the Who played, thrashing around, Keith was fantastic. But to have him play different things like 'The Music Must Change' from Who Are You, where it had weird time signature changes, Moon had trouble catching on.
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Post by pm on Feb 7, 2017 18:22:45 GMT -5
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Post by leftofthedial09 on Feb 8, 2017 14:12:41 GMT -5
For reals? I watched this and didn't even notice.
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Post by con on Feb 9, 2017 22:28:56 GMT -5
hell yeah who knew Bieber was a Mats fan
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Post by Jer on Feb 10, 2017 11:20:32 GMT -5
i hear ya....I'm not saying there was anything wrong with Chris' drumming. When I say 'wasn't skilled enough', I meant that he was not playing up to whatever Paul had in mind, not that he wasn't skilled. But it's just speculation on my part as well. Paul did recount that in the recording sessions for DTAS that they had to record some of the drum tracks by manually playing/recording OVER Chris' part with a drum machine because his timing was off. I think. Was that in the book? I mean, let's look at this way. What was so complex and intricate in Paul's later songs? Nothing! It wasn't like he was writing in odd time signatures, like 6/8 time or something and throwing Chris off. Essentially it's all just pound the snare on 2 and 4. Now, if Paul were writing oddball stuff like Pete Townshend, where there's syncopation and time signature changes, then yeah. I remember Townshend said that Keith Moon was great at what he did but he wasn't a good drummer. Meaning that for the style that the Who played, thrashing around, Keith was fantastic. But to have him play different things like 'The Music Must Change' from Who Are You, where it had weird time signature changes, Moon had trouble catching on. They did some 6/8 stuff (They're Blind comes to mind, though technically 12/16 maybe) but not much. But yeah, nothing crazy at all, and if anything, the material got easier as it got slower on the last couple records. I don't remember that they recorded over his tracks on DTAS but it's possible. I'm planning to read the book again soon. I think I remember something about a click track, which has it's advantages and disadvantages for a drummer and a recording. So timing is one thing, and I never knew Chris to have a problem there, but if he got complacent and lazy near the end, this his technique all around could have suffered. He played fine on that 89 tour when I saw him a few times. Remember Paul's quote about Chris never practicing before a tour or anything. I don't think it came down to material, I think it came down to lack of interest on Chris' part and resulting frustration on Paul's part. Didn't Tommy say "He wanted to quit, so we helped him." or something like that? Or was that about Bob? Anyhow, there is nothing more difficult in rock and roll than keeping a band together and happy. Eventually someone always gets complacent or frustrated or just tired. Moon did Moon amazingly, but he was not John Bonham or anything like that. He was chaotic and spontaneous and it was a blessing and a curse for Townshend. Then, near the end, he was so wasted that his technique and ability to learn was suffering. He was so great.......but he would have never worked for most bands.
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Post by mudbacktodirt on Feb 19, 2017 11:39:12 GMT -5
A little late on this. Craig Wright of the Eugene Emerald newspaper picked his top 5 songs of 2016. Coming in at #1 was "Hands Together" by The I Don't Cares. www.dailyemerald.com/2017/01/04/emerald-recommends-best-songs-2016/Paul Westerberg has been a world-class songwriter since his days with the Replacements, but rarely have his lyrics packed such a devastating punch. On “Hands Together,” the closing song on Wild Stab, Westerberg analyzes his life by taking inventory of his relationship with household items including “a cup of coffee that likes to be called a mug,” the TV, newspapers and, most hauntingly, the bed he alone occupies after a divorce in 2014: “The pillows are exhausted to hold my head again so soon / The dreams I had before are now too bored to even show up / And the blankets are embarrassed / It’s only me that they cover up.”
Westerberg sings like he’s telling a secret he’s not entirely comfortable sharing, but the 12-string guitars and I Don’t Cares’ partner Juliana Hatfield allow him ample freedom to navigate his thoughts. It’s chock full of witticisms and sarcastic self-deprecation, but in the end, Westerberg seems to conclude that loneliness is an inherent part of the world: “Give my regards to midnight / Tell him he ain’t changed a bit / Long, tall, dark and handsome, still lonely as shit.”
“Hands Together” is easily the best song Westerberg has written since 1987’s “Can’t Hardly Wait.”
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Post by teddinard on Feb 20, 2017 15:46:30 GMT -5
Listened to a radio show by the actor Jason Schwartzman on the Sirius indie rock station XMU over the weekend. Before he played "Fugitive Kind" from Suicaine Gratifaction (which he mispronounced), he gave a perplexing little speech about it, saying something like "I don't really know the Replacements very well, well, I know the Replacements's music of course, but..." And then praised this song for its jarring combination of sections.
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Post by matsrule on Feb 20, 2017 15:50:31 GMT -5
Been watching his show Mozart in the Jungle.........pretty funny......even if you're not a classical music fan..........
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Post by brianlux on Mar 9, 2017 3:05:44 GMT -5
While at work in the bookstore today straightening out some shelves my wife called me over to the front desk and said, "Do me a favor and listen to this helmet and tell me if this sounds familiar to you." I thought-- what the heck does she mean "listen to this helmet?-- and then noticed a motorcycle helmet a customer had left on the counter. I leaned down and listened carefully and sure enough, there was music coming out of this thing! And in fact, that music was The Replacements' "I'll Be You". Turns out the guy is a big Replacements fan and when he came back to the counter we had a very pleasant time talking 'Mats stuff. Very cool!
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