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Post by A Regular on Oct 22, 2005 15:26:20 GMT -5
I still think it's a love song and I'm pretty sure it's to me and Elegant Mule. And Meri , of course. I hear it as an anti-love song, but to a person, not "his public". He took all the break-up cliches about how we just belong to different worlds, we've grown apart pablum, there's something wrong with us.... and said, nope, that ain't it, I want out, period, simply as that.... I don't need no stinking hallmark cliche..... Let High time be the break-up cliche. He may have been married, but from listening to everything from SG on, there must have been some tension brewing... or he's just a great writer doing fiction and it has nothing to do with her personal life. I think the only concept from mono is that the best way to break out of your personal blues is to strap on a guitar and play some Keith Richards.
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Post by pat on Oct 23, 2005 0:40:17 GMT -5
When MONO first came out, and the rumors were flying that Tommy - in GnR at the time - played on most of the record, I really thought I could hear none other than Axl Rose singing backup on this track ("Let's Not Belong Together"). Listen to it again, close your eyes and see what you think...
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Post by justlikemartinsaid on Oct 23, 2005 0:56:06 GMT -5
When MONO first came out, and the rumors were flying that Tommy - in GnR at the time - played on most of the record, I really thought I could hear none other than Axl Rose singing backup on this track ("Let's Not Belong Together"). Listen to it again, close your eyes and see what you think... I'm still not convinced that Tommy didn't have some role in that recording. The bass is so strong and solid on Two Days 'til Tomorrow, and the Mats feeling is so present on Between Love and Like, that whether he is or not, Tommy could be playing. I really think that Mono started out as a springboard to a Mats reunion. It didn't pan out, but the material was there.
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Post by cellarfullofnoise on Oct 23, 2005 3:26:41 GMT -5
When MONO first came out, and the rumors were flying that Tommy - in GnR at the time - played on most of the record, I really thought I could hear none other than Axl Rose singing backup on this track ("Let's Not Belong Together"). Listen to it again, close your eyes and see what you think... I'm still not convinced that Tommy didn't have some role in that recording. The bass is so strong and solid on Two Days 'til Tomorrow, and the Mats feeling is so present on Between Love and Like, that whether he is or not, Tommy could be playing. I really think that Mono started out as a springboard to a Mats reunion. It didn't pan out, but the material was there. That makes sense. Plus the video showing the Mats playing (?) backs that theory up.
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Post by mrblasty on Oct 23, 2005 9:11:33 GMT -5
This is an anti-love song if you hear it as "let's not belong together.
But it becomes a love song if you hear it as "let's not belong, together".
Typical PW play on a phrase.
I tend to think of it as the latter example.
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Post by Lieworth T. Elling III on Oct 23, 2005 9:46:02 GMT -5
i don't know about tommy playing on the record, but every time i've heard the song (which i love) i've thought of it as a song ABOUT paul and tommy, with tommy's solo career on the rise as paul's was on the wane...
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Post by adamapple on Oct 23, 2005 10:39:47 GMT -5
the day paul writes a concept record is the day i stop listening to him...his approach has always been one prone to simply letting whats inside fly out, sometimes for the hell of it, and sometimes cause he's got something on his mind...and his sogs have always had a sens of ambiguity, which has left them open for interpretation, he has spoken about not writing songs too specific....there are exceptions of course..."things" "good day" etc...but the whole feel of mono is him just getting his mojo back, and not trying, just doing....and AAA just seems a song sprouting from literaly feeling like you aint got nothing left to add to the equation......this seems obvious....paul's a much better writer than one who decides "i am going to write about "X".." inspiration comes from all sources, and paul strongest material is fresh because it lacks a contrived bone....and does anyone really think he writes a song about us fans??? i think that's pretty silly, and terribley vain on our part...que carly simon song
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Post by snickers on Oct 23, 2005 11:13:51 GMT -5
This is an anti-love song if you hear it as "let's not belong together. But it becomes a love song if you hear it as "let's not belong, together". Typical PW play on a phrase. I tend to think of it as the latter example. at the time it came out, for some reason i did think it was about tommy. but now a few years later, i hate to admit it, but i tend to agree with blasty's interpretation. (i still don't hear bacon, however)
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Post by Nickel on Oct 23, 2005 12:14:27 GMT -5
This is an anti-love song if you hear it as "let's not belong together. But it becomes a love song if you hear it as "let's not belong, together". Typical PW play on a phrase. I tend to think of it as the latter example. I've usually thought of it this way too. I also mess with my wife and sing "Lets snap it all together" and now she sings those lyrics!
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Post by scoOter on Oct 23, 2005 21:27:50 GMT -5
the day paul writes a concept record is the day i stop listening to him...his approach has always been one prone to simply letting whats inside fly out, sometimes for the hell of it, and sometimes cause he's got something on his mind...and his sogs have always had a sens of ambiguity, which has left them open for interpretation, he has spoken about not writing songs too specific....there are exceptions of course..."things" "good day" etc...but the whole feel of mono is him just getting his mojo back, and not trying, just doing....and AAA just seems a song sprouting from literaly feeling like you aint got nothing left to add to the equation......this seems obvious....paul's a much better writer than one who decides "i am going to write about "X".." inspiration comes from all sources, and paul strongest material is fresh because it lacks a contrived bone....and does anyone really think he writes a song about us fans??? i think that's pretty silly, and terribley vain on our part...que carly simon song hey man, all we are doing is hypothesizing. i'm not reading it one way or another out of effing vanity, dude. and i am certainly NOT convinced that paul is totally devoid of contrivances. i have loooong felt some of his vocal croaks at strategic moments (here comes a regular comes to mind) are pure theater. it doesn't affect my love of the song. i think the heart is pure, but there are times the delivery is just that... the delivery. there are a lot of somewhat contrived moments on dtas, too. i still love the album. not to mention "strike down the band" and all the little interludes on folker that seem to tell a story. come on. i'm wasn't claiming to have the answer, but do you really think you have it? let's just have some fun with the analysis. (by the way, i had never considered blasty's thing, and i just love that interpretation.)
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Post by kgp on Oct 24, 2005 11:49:23 GMT -5
hey man, all we are doing is hypothesizing. i'm not reading it one way or another out of effing vanity, dude. and i am certainly NOT convinced that paul is totally devoid of contrivances. i have loooong felt some of his vocal croaks at strategic moments (here comes a regular comes to mind) are pure theater. it doesn't affect my love of the song. i think the heart is pure, but there are times the delivery is just that... the delivery. there are a lot of somewhat contrived moments on dtas, too. i still love the album. not to mention "strike down the band" and all the little interludes on folker that seem to tell a story. come on. i'm wasn't claiming to have the answer, but do you really think you have it? let's just have some fun with the analysis. (by the way, i had never considered blasty's thing, and i just love that interpretation.) I guess I'm pretty naive because I still go gooey over the sound of his quivering voice in 'Here Come a Regular.' Mission accomplished, I guess. I don't doubt Paul's guilty of a little trickery, that's one of the hallmarks of being a good writer; nor do I think everything he writes is a not-so-veiled peek into his private life. The croaking voice, I think, also has a lot to do with his vocal shortcomings. I can't totally discredit your 'secret message to the fans' theory. Just listen to his parody of 'Like a Rolling Stone' from the 2002 tour. And unlike a lot of performers, Paul does meet his fans, so in a sense his audience is not some amorphous blob. In many interviews, he's said that the number of fans coming up after shows, claiming that he saved their lives gets to him, and he has to shut himself off from that just to get through the signings. So yeah, I see your point, but I can't believe Paul thinks about those same fans everytime he sits down to write a song, or would consciously drop little crumbs for us to find.
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Post by Kathy on Oct 24, 2005 12:39:43 GMT -5
....and does anyone really think he writes a song about us fans??? i think that's pretty silly, and terribley vain on our part...que carly simon song You need to stop telling other people on the board that their opinions are silly or stupid or whatever. You can give your opinion, just do it without being disparaging of other people.
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Post by BCWF on Oct 24, 2005 12:44:10 GMT -5
Good tune, whatever the hell it means..
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Post by scoOter on Oct 24, 2005 20:37:57 GMT -5
Good tune, whatever the hell it means.. truer words never spoken. *raises glass*
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Post by Placemat on Oct 24, 2005 22:17:16 GMT -5
I think the only concept from mono is that the best way to break out of your personal blues is to strap on a guitar and play some Keith Richards. I f#ckin love this. Well said A Reg, poetry.
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Post by Placemat on Oct 24, 2005 22:20:43 GMT -5
This is an anti-love song if you hear it as "let's not belong together. But it becomes a love song if you hear it as "let's not belong, together". Typical PW play on a phrase. I tend to think of it as the latter example. Yeah, ditto with the latter version.
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Post by Marz on Oct 25, 2005 12:28:59 GMT -5
That's also the way the DJ interpreted it (as a love song) as he dedicated it to his wife.
I just hear that hidden comma too...
But all the opinions have been terribly interesting and again show how so many of PW's songs can have so many meanings. Now I think I'll go listen to more PW!!!
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Post by A Regular on Oct 25, 2005 14:06:14 GMT -5
I listened to it again, over lunch...and have to concede that it is about not belonging, together.
I think the chorus won me over...the part where he sings, "let's not belong".... w/out the together.
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Post by scoOter on Oct 25, 2005 14:29:08 GMT -5
it's about that crazy girl from ipanema.
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Post by adamapple on Oct 25, 2005 17:25:49 GMT -5
needless to say, i think this is one of the best songs on mono...love the intro paul uses when he counts off before jumping into some of the songs "uh, alright"
alway thought the song was more about being partners in crime....you and me and us against the world, the whole mats attitude, but it could just be about chocolate cake for all i care, i love the thing
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