bobb
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Post by bobb on Jul 9, 2024 7:24:35 GMT -5
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Post by Hagbard on Jul 10, 2024 2:54:55 GMT -5
Listening now. Thanks for posting! |
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Post by teddinard on Jul 10, 2024 10:08:47 GMT -5
So "Go" is a Tuff Darts cover (see around 43:07 on the podcast)? First I heard this.
I can't find the original anywhere online, or any reference to it, though my Google skills aren't so hot. It's (mis-?)credited to Westerberg everywhere.
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Post by bobb on Jul 10, 2024 13:28:06 GMT -5
So "Go" is a Tuff Darts cover (see around 43:07 on the podcast)? First I heard this. I can't find the original anywhere online, or any reference to it, though my Google skills aren't so hot. It's (mis-?)credited to Westerberg everywhere. I was surprised to hear the host say that too. Nah.Westerberg is the sole writer. Now I have listen to all the tuff darts songs to see if one sounds like Go |
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Post by teddinard on Jul 10, 2024 13:40:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I just can't find any corroboration.
But it's a pretty weird mistake. Wonder where he got that idea.
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Post by hankmulder on Jul 10, 2024 15:33:35 GMT -5
So "Go" is a Tuff Darts cover (see around 43:07 on the podcast)? First I heard this. I can't find the original anywhere online, or any reference to it, though my Google skills aren't so hot. It's (mis-?)credited to Westerberg everywhere. I was surprised to hear the host say that too. Nah.Westerberg is the sole writer. Now I have listen to all the tuff darts songs to see if one sounds like Go I did a quick listen of the samples on iTunes for Tuff Darts only album (1978) that preceded "Stink". I heard nothing similar. Someone got punked. Who knows...maybe a fan of Tuff Darts thought it might be a good way to generate a few streams from Mats' fans. Really, Westerberg/Replacements were never huge but for something like that to go unnoticed & uncorrected for over 42 years? Not to mention that Tuff Darts don't even have a song titled "Go" on anything they ever released. Unless it's a song on an obscure various artists release. And Tuff Darts appears to have reunited & released a couple of records around 2007. I would think there would be something from them or their management about it as the "Stink" expanded reissue was in the works & released in the first half of 2008. |
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Post by curmudgeonman on Jul 10, 2024 15:38:45 GMT -5
I was going to post on the "Go" songwriting credit yesterday, but forgot. The guy in the podcast got some wrong info, there is no song titled Go on the Tuff Dart's one and only album. No video evidence of them playing it live at CBGBs, etc. Nothing. I'll take Twin Tone's word for it.  |
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Post by hankmulder on Jul 10, 2024 16:28:49 GMT -5
I was going to post on the "Go" songwriting credit yesterday, but forgot. The guy in the podcast got some wrong info, there is no song titled Go on the Tuff Dart's one and only album. No video evidence of them playing it live at CBGBs, etc. Nothing. I'll take Twin Tone's word for it. Yeah, Twin/Tone may have been an indie label but at that point (1982) they had already had some dealings with major labels (Tuff Darts were on Sire Records) due to including a song on their compilation Big Hits Of Mid America Volume 3. The band Yipes! had a song (The Ballad of Roy Orbison) that they recorded & included on the compilation. It would turn out that Yipes! were signed to a bigger label (Millenium?) & after the first pressing the Yipes! song had to be removed. So Peter Jespereson & Paul Stark were not strangers to this sort of thing. And I would think they did their due diligence. |
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Post by holeinthedrapes on Jul 11, 2024 7:46:04 GMT -5
Two of my favorites, thanks for finding this! They really didn’t get too deep into the discussion for as long as it was but it was still enjoyable. As much as I love Tweedy, I don’t think he’s in Westerberg’s league lyrically. He can get a little too abstract with his lyrics and can also just throw words together. |
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Post by curmudgeonman on Jul 11, 2024 13:07:57 GMT -5
^^^^^^^^^^^
I agree, but Tweedy has put out some great music. And he has a long history with The Replacements- his band Uncle Tupelo opened for them for a few shows on the All Shook Down tour, and he did state on stage that everything Wilco did was influenced by the Mats. And a number of times (including his book), Tweedy has stated the first time he saw the Mats (opening for X) was a watershed moment for him.
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Post by holeinthedrapes on Jul 12, 2024 13:04:28 GMT -5
^^^^^^^^^^^ I agree, but Tweedy has put out some great music. And he has a long history with The Replacements- his band Uncle Tupelo opened for them for a few shows on the All Shook Down tour, and he did state on stage that everything Wilco did was influenced by the Mats. And a number of times (including his book), Tweedy has stated the first time he saw the Mats (opening for X) was a watershed moment for him. I love Tweedy, Wilco, Tupelo, the whole deal. It’s just that lyrically he can a little too deep for me. I’m not that bright, so maybe that’s part of it. I’ve read (though am not sure if its true) that the song The Lonely 1 from Wilco’s Being There album is about Westerberg. |
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