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Post by psychopharmacology on Mar 9, 2022 12:47:47 GMT -5
Hello.
Have recently been fascinated by the journey DTAS took, as documented by the album itself as well as Dead Man's Pop...
Wanted to pick the brains of people who have been around a lot longer than me. It's my understanding that very rough mixes of DTAS were done by Wallace shortly after they had finished tracking. The mixes on disc 1 of DMP are a 2019 approximation that, while very good, leaves me wondering what the original mixdowns sounded like as well as how far they went/were presented in between the record going from Wallace to Alge.
As far as I'm aware these have never circulated in any wide capacity, though in doing some searching through this forum I've seen someone say Paul indicated at one point they were "out there" which, setting aside the veracity of that statement, makes me wonder to what extent they were distributed among industry/label people and if a set has privately circulated.
Is this something anyone knows anything more concrete about, has, or has heard? It would be so interesting to compare the originals roughs to DMP and the released album.
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Post by Jer on Mar 10, 2022 8:01:24 GMT -5
Hello. Have recently been fascinated by the journey DTAS took, as documented by the album itself as well as Dead Man's Pop... Wanted to pick the brains of people who have been around a lot longer than me. It's my understanding that very rough mixes of DTAS were done by Wallace shortly after they had finished tracking. The mixes on disc 1 of DMP are a 2019 approximation that, while very good, leaves me wondering what the original mixdowns sounded like as well as how far they went/were presented in between the record going from Wallace to Alge. As far as I'm aware these have never circulated in any wide capacity, though in doing some searching through this forum I've seen someone say Paul indicated at one point they were "out there" which, setting aside the veracity of that statement, makes me wonder to what extent they were distributed among industry/label people and if a set has privately circulated. Is this something anyone knows anything more concrete about, has, or has heard? It would be so interesting to compare the originals roughs to DMP and the released album. If by "out there" Paul meant in the hands of the fans, I'd be surprised. They would have been a really hot commodity, with all the folklore around them, and while there were people way deeper into tape/CDR trading than I was, I never saw mention of them. Seems like somehow they've managed to keep a few things out of those circles, which was smart, and I expect there's still a few surprises that will surface.
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Post by anarkissed on Mar 10, 2022 11:27:16 GMT -5
Hello. Have recently been fascinated by the journey DTAS took, as documented by the album itself as well as Dead Man's Pop... Wanted to pick the brains of people who have been around a lot longer than me. It's my understanding that very rough mixes of DTAS were done by Wallace shortly after they had finished tracking. The mixes on disc 1 of DMP are a 2019 approximation that, while very good, leaves me wondering what the original mixdowns sounded like as well as how far they went/were presented in between the record going from Wallace to Alge. As far as I'm aware these have never circulated in any wide capacity, though in doing some searching through this forum I've seen someone say Paul indicated at one point they were "out there" which, setting aside the veracity of that statement, makes me wonder to what extent they were distributed among industry/label people and if a set has privately circulated. Is this something anyone knows anything more concrete about, has, or has heard? It would be so interesting to compare the originals roughs to DMP and the released album. I would just add that I think Paul might be one of the most unreliable sources of information about this kind of thing. I don't think he was ever very interested in "bootlegs" and even less interested in looking "back", probably didn't pay much attention to anything anybody else ever told him about it, and probably misremembers whatever anybody did tell him. |
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Post by curmudgeonman on Mar 10, 2022 14:25:15 GMT -5
It's my understanding that very rough mixes of DTAS were done by Wallace shortly after they had finished tracking. The mixes on disc 1 of DMP are a 2019 approximation that, while very good, leaves me wondering what the original mixdowns sounded like as well as how far they went/were presented in between the record going from Wallace to Alge. The rough mix tapes were found in Slim's basement, given to Bob Mehr, then given to Wallace. I imagine the tapes (Maxell 1/4", 7" stock) were not in mint condition; being 25 years old and not vaulted, I'm sure dupes were made, perhaps digital ones. I would guess either Wallace has them or likely Rhino/Sire/Warner Bros. I would assume the audio quality is not tip top, thus Wallace's use of the original 16 or 24 track master tapes to emulate the Slim tapes. I highly doubt Westerberg owns them, I don't think he even cares to take possession of them anyways. He would probably throw them in the river anyways. |
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