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Post by mudbacktodirt on Dec 13, 2020 16:56:32 GMT -5
I was thinking about it today and you're right. He didn't tour in 1999 after Suicaine Gratifaction. He did in-stores and a bandless tour in 2002. Then, he did a solo tour with a band in 2005. I believe that was his last solo tour though.
I thought staying off the road was partially about staying sober and partially not to be away from his family for too long back in the 1999 through the 2000's. That doesn't explain the lack of touring since 2005 (except the brief but somewhat lucrative Replacements reunion shows).
It's not the resulting answer that I want it to be (based on the limited information at hand). But, my revised conclusion is that he really doesn't want to tour.
Not sure where that leaves me with recording music and putting it out. For that, I just don't have enough to go on. Does he have material and he's not satisfied with it? Maybe it's perpetually partially finished? Maybe he hasn't been doing much writing and recording of new music? I don't know the answer to any of those questions.
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Post by FreeRider on Dec 14, 2020 9:48:41 GMT -5
True, outside of the reunion gigs and tour, his playing days are pretty much done. It makes me wonder if he's giving us the ol' Irish goodbye. In some interviews, he's said before that the Replacements never officially broke up, they just all kind of went their way for a long time. Then after many years, Tommy sent official notice of his withdrawal from the band, but Paul said they were always a part of The Replacements, Inc.
He's hinted at retiring from performing before, so these are all signs that, as he's gotten older, he's just not going to go thru the grind of touring if he doesn't have or want to. And that is fine because we can easily forget the guy's not just a musician we all love and follow. He's a father, a brother, and a son with family and other life obligations. he can enjoy the rest of his life with his family and writing and recording for himself or for others.
So it wouldn't surprise me if he just quietly walks away from all of it, like the Grant Park show. Still, I feel that it's a shame that he doesn't go out with a bang ( maybe the reunion tour really was it?), one last record or release for the fans, to meet me one last time down the alley, to say goodbye...
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Post by raccoon on Dec 14, 2020 22:13:07 GMT -5
All signs point to no more tours or albums. Which is exactly why he will do both when we least expect it. Let's not forget that Paul is very unpredictable. He ain't lost yet so he's got to be a winner!
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Post by curmudgeonman on Dec 16, 2020 10:03:35 GMT -5
The musicians selling their catalogs (with the exception of The Imagine Dragons) are in their senior years, their retirement years. Leaving a huge business asset such as a valuable song catalog can be daunting for heirs, and perhaps, dangerous for the one leaving the songs, not knowing for sure how the catalog will be taken care of. For Dylan, who did own his songs, it is also a business decision to sell NOW, the recent election could very well be a factor. Trump's top capital gains tax rate is at 20%, and Biden stated he will raise it up to 39.5% for those earning more than a million per year, almost double. For a sale of hundreds of millions of dollars, that is a LOT of money going to taxes. Plus money earned off of song royalties is taxed at current income tax rates, a higher percentage.
George Lucas sold his film empire to Disney in 2012 for billions of dollars. Interestingly enough, he sold his company months before Obama raised capital gains taxes, a difference of hundreds of millions of dollars. His girlfriend at the time (now wife) Melody Hobson, was (and still is) President and CEO of Ariel Investments.
Making money off of song publishing in today's world is a tough nut to crack. I read recently that in 2017, the gross income for U2 was $55 million dollars, 95% from touring and less than 5% for record and song sales/streaming.
Last word from David Crosby-
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Post by anarkissed on Dec 16, 2020 14:01:36 GMT -5
Somehow, I'm not comfortable with letting David Crosby have the last word about anything...
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Post by con on Dec 16, 2020 21:45:36 GMT -5
Still, I feel that it's a shame that he doesn't go out with a bang (maybe the reunion tour really was it?), one last record or release for the fans, to meet me one last time down the alley, to say goodbye... Please, God! 🙏🏻
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Post by con on Dec 16, 2020 21:50:58 GMT -5
The musicians selling their catalogs (with the exception of The Imagine Dragons) are in their senior years, their retirement years. Leaving a huge business asset such as a valuable song catalog can be daunting for heirs, and perhaps, dangerous for the one leaving the songs, not knowing for sure how the catalog will be taken care of. For Dylan, who did own his songs, it is also a business decision to sell NOW, the recent election could very well be a factor. Trump's top capital gains tax rate is at 20%, and Biden stated he will raise it up to 39.5% for those earning more than a million per year, almost double. For a sale of hundreds of millions of dollars, that is a LOT of money going to taxes. Plus money earned off of song royalties is taxed at current income tax rates, a higher percentage.
George Lucas sold his film empire to Disney in 2012 for billions of dollars. Interestingly enough, he sold his company months before Obama raised capital gains taxes, a difference of hundreds of millions of dollars. His girlfriend at the time (now wife) Melody Hobson, was (and still is) President and CEO of Ariel Investments.
Making money off of song publishing in today's world is a tough nut to crack. I read recently that in 2017, the gross income for U2 was $55 million dollars, 95% from touring and less than 5% for record and song sales/streaming.
Last word from David Crosby-
Very interesting. Woman and children first...
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Post by raccoon on Dec 19, 2020 8:55:54 GMT -5
Maybe we can get The Buggles to revamp/update 'Video Killed the Radio Star'. New version: 'Streaming Killed the Aging Rock Star'.
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Post by curmudgeonman on Jan 6, 2021 12:50:32 GMT -5
Just announced that Lindsey Buckingham sold off 100% of his entire song catalog (along with 50% of future songs), looks like the deal was finalized late 2020. Producer Jimmy Iovine (Tom Petty, U2, Stevie Nicks, etc) has also sold his royalty rights late last year as well.
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Post by anarkissed on Jan 6, 2021 14:33:59 GMT -5
Neil Young has also sold a share of his catalog.
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Post by curmudgeonman on Jan 16, 2021 14:55:58 GMT -5
Others who have sold their song catalogs in 2020:
Blondie (Debbie Harry, Chris Stein) Devo (Mark Mothersbaugh, Jerry Casale) Chrissie Hynde The B52s Robbie Robertson Journey (Neil Schon, Jonathan Cain) Richie Samboro (BonJovi) Nikki Sixx (Motley Crue)
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