jd19jd
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Post by jd19jd on Jul 20, 2020 20:24:16 GMT -5
 PTMM tour, apparently it's an import. |
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Post by mudbacktodirt on Jul 20, 2020 20:55:26 GMT -5
PTMM tour, apparently it's an import. I was playing a playlist generated by YouTube after playing the rough mixes if PTMM. Songs from this show were in the mix. |
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Jer
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Post by Jer on Jul 21, 2020 6:07:43 GMT -5
Another bootleg, more so than an import (though could be an imported bootleg if it was actually pressed in Europe). Certainly 100% unauthorized, the band doesn't get paid, and they had zero involvement or approval in the release.
Besides the fact that we'd certainly know about it and dissect the release from head to toe, it's always a tell-tale sign when the cover photo is years before the actual content on the record, with a different lineup. Lazy, amateur marketing. I haven't heard it, but I would assume it wasn't mastered/mixed with near the care the Hoboken show was, if it was mastered and mixed at all.
Love seeing these things shared and enjoyed, but hate seeing them on the market. Been going on for decades. Hope no one is spending money on it.
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Post by who? on Jul 21, 2020 7:27:18 GMT -5
But how does it sound? Like an audience recording, or a professional one? Just asking for the mental file cabinet....as in, might we see an official release someday.
This tour was the first time I saw them, at the Renaissance Theater in Rochester, NY. They opened with Sweet Home Chicago and they were very new to me, so I have no ideas what they played after. My sister and her friend were my ride and they pulled the plug a few songs later, anyways. But that was enough for me to stick around for ever.
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Post by Freddy on Jul 21, 2020 15:25:14 GMT -5
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Post by velvetgefiltefish on Jul 22, 2020 13:05:59 GMT -5
I bought this last year. The sound is not exactly bad but... weird. It's a soundboard recording, but I'm pretty sure it was recorded off the feed to the PAs, so it features vocals and drums a lot more prominently than anything else. (I've got a number of 'Mats bootlegs that have this same issue.) One guitar is audible, but not as loud as you'd want it to be. The bass and the other guitar are barely there most of the time. The other guitar is so buried, in fact, that I saw one person somewhere state that this was recorded when the band was a trio, but in this era the band never performed as a trio -- they had Slim in place before they played their first post-Bob show. It's a shame things are so lopsided with this recording, because the recording quality itself is pretty good, so if the mix had been a lot better balanced, this would've had some of the best sound for a Replacements bootleg (with a balanced mix, probably could've been only a step or two below the official Milwaukee 1989 live discs in sound quality). Even with these sonic issues, it still sounds better than a fair percentage of the other 'Mats boots I own.
Unfortunately, there's another major issue with this disc: My copy (and I suspect all copies, but of course I don't know this for a fact) has two tracks that repeat. That is, the exact same performance of a song occurs twice in a row, as two successive tracks. That wouldn't be so bad in and of itself -- it's easy enough to hit the skip button since this is a CD -- but the really bad part is that the two tracks that are supposed to follow the repeaters have been REPLACED with these repeat tracks. So when you look at the tracklist for this, unless I got a fluke copy or something, you're getting two less tracks than it shows. It's been quite awhile since I've listened to this now and I don't have the disc handy, but I remember about the two tracks that you lose from the tracklist that one is an original and one is a cover song.
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Post by oldmatsfan on Jul 22, 2020 15:28:45 GMT -5
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Post by ClamsCasino on Jul 22, 2020 15:35:35 GMT -5
Instead of Take Me Down To The Hospital it plays Nightclub Jitters twice. And you get Waitress in the Sky twice instead of Tossin and Turnin. It's streaming for anyone with Amazon Prime.
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Post by oldmatsfan on Jul 22, 2020 15:47:40 GMT -5
No issue with playing the same song twice on the "rare historical footage" I linked above. Funny that a "legit" cough cough copy for sale is not as complete as the boot!
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Post by mudbacktodirt on Jul 22, 2020 19:00:21 GMT -5
A ton of old concerts that had been broadcast over the radio were put up on YouTube recently (presumably declared public domain in the recent past). I didn't realize until the other day that this Replacements show (or any Replacements show) was among them.
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Jer
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Post by Jer on Jul 22, 2020 20:02:32 GMT -5
Anybody besides me wonder why the one for sale on Amazon has Bob on the cover when the show was in 1987 after he left?
Because it's unauthorized by the band and the people who are selling it are only interested in the cash, not the quality or accuracy of the product they are selling. They probably took the first photo that came up on Google. The band and their label get nothing from this release. It's illegal and unethical to sell (and buy) unauthorized recordings. Same with "The Early Mats", the final Grant Park show, and anything else that isn't on Twin/Tone or Sire, pretty much (with a couple exceptions, like the original Boink! ep). I'm sure it's out there somewhere for free. I'll look for it and share it if I find it. Listen to it, share it, enjoy it...just don't buy or sell it. |
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Post by oldmatsfan on Jul 23, 2020 5:13:32 GMT -5
Exactly the point I was trying to make Jer!
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Post by who? on Jul 23, 2020 7:49:03 GMT -5
Anybody besides me wonder why the one for sale on Amazon has Bob on the cover when the show was in 1987 after he left? Listen to it, share it, enjoy it...just don't buy or sell it. ...it's crap |
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Post by con on Jul 23, 2020 22:31:36 GMT -5
Listen to it, share it, enjoy it...just don't buy or sell it. ...it's crap LOL! Beat me to it. Bravo. |
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Post by raccoon on Jul 24, 2020 17:48:31 GMT -5
The whole show (soundboard) is free for download on dimeadozen.org: www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=564421You'd have to create an account to see it.... THE REPLACEMENTS July 18, 1987 The Chance Poughkeepsie, NY SOURCE: soundboard LENGTH: 94:46 TRACKS: 01. Bastards Of Young (cuts in) 02. Hold My Life 03. I.O.U. 04. Never Mind 05. Cross-Tie Walker 06. Take Me Down To The Hospital 07. Nightclub Jitters 08. Within Your Reach 09. The Ledge 10. Lay It Down Clown 11. Little Mascara 12. Can't Hardly Wait 13. Kiss Me On The Bus 14. Another Girl, Another Planet 15. I Will Dare (cut) 16. Happy Birthday 17. Girl From Ipanema 18. Born In The USA 19. Dedicated To The One I Love 20. Tossin' And Turnin' 21. Waitress In The Sky 22. I Just Don't Give A Damn 23. Unsatisfied 24. Black Diamond 25. Gary's Got A Boner 26. Go 27. If Only You Were Lonely 28. Sweet Home Chicago 29. Be My Lover 30. Hear You Been To College 31. Hamm’s Beer Theme 32. Left Of The Dial (cuts out) |
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Post by con on Jul 25, 2020 15:45:25 GMT -5
Thx! Seems it’s on YouTube, too. Who’s singing on “Girl From Ipanema”?? Slim? A roadie? The drums sound straight-up retarded on this boot.
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Post by oldmatsfan on Jul 25, 2020 18:29:55 GMT -5
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