Trenton
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Post by Trenton on Jan 11, 2008 13:38:27 GMT -5
Simple question, what's good? Ha! What should I check out?
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Post by scoOter on Jan 11, 2008 14:02:55 GMT -5
in my not very humble opinion, tommy is a wonderful writer, performer, and arranger/producer:
bash & pop - it sounds perfect, and you know what? it pretty much is. there isn't a weak track on it. get it now.
perfect ep - i lost my shit the first time i found it at atomic records in milwaukee, and heard it. a markedly different sound than what we had on b & p. "alternative monkey" is the weakest track, but i still like it. the rest of the ep is absolutely ace. i was lucky enough to see tommy 5 or 6 times in perfect mode, and all the shows were awesome.
"unofficial" version of the perfect album - there was something amazing about having this album FULL of full on rock songs that you figured would never make it into the public domain. the only song i didn't like, and i REALLY don't like it, is "yap yap" (good website in its time, though).
"official" perfect album - the remixing job sort of blows, and robs the songs of some sonic power. still, a great album; save for one, crucial detail: they left off "peg song" (an UNFORGIVEABLE crime to my ears). i hate "yap yap" even more on this version.
village gorilla head - the MOST hot/cold album he has done. it sounds great; has just the right amount of punch. to me, it is bookended with greatness. the first 3 or 4 songs are great; in particular the opener, "without a view". the last 3 songs are great; in particular the last one, "someday". the middle is a gooey pablum of mediocrity. the title track should be launched out of a cannon into space.
there are some b & p songs floating around on vinyl & sountracks: "harboring a fugitive", "making me sick", etc. these are all decent. there is one more song i can't remember the name of....
tommy gets a big 'thumbs up' from this reporter. i won't compare him to paul, because that is whole different thing, and frankly, a lot of you have already read my comparison. suffice it to say, i think you should buy it all. in this order:
bash & pop
perfect ep
perfect album
village gorilla head
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ih8music
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Post by ih8music on Jan 11, 2008 14:09:03 GMT -5
well, considering that Village Gorilla Head is his ONLY solo album... might be a good start.  sarcasm aside, I rank Tommy's post-mats work like: VGH - solo Friday Night Is Killing Me - Bash & Pop Once, Twice, Three Times... - Perfect When Squirrels Play Chicken - Perfect as an aside, he's been in GnR for nearly a decade now and there's nothing to show for it (at least nothing officially released). wouldn't that drive you nuts? |
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Trenton
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Post by Trenton on Jan 11, 2008 14:25:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the help! I'm trying to find a some way to track down this stuff though... Ha!
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Post by timtoast on Jan 11, 2008 21:25:49 GMT -5
I'd never heard of "harboring a fugitive" before. Anyone care to post a copy of it?
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Post by flipstain on Jan 12, 2008 0:20:10 GMT -5
I too would be interested in a copy of Harboring a Fugitive. Where was that song available. I know Making Me Sick is on the Clerks soundtrack.
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Post by scoOter on Jan 12, 2008 9:51:00 GMT -5
there are two 45"s i have with bash & pop songs... one is "harboring a fugitive", and the other is called... is called... i honestly can't remember. i think it might be something similar to "situation".
one of them is a blue vinyl split with a band called his name is alive. the other is, again i think, the vinyl single for "fast & hard", and the b side is either the "fugitve" song or "situation" (or whatever that title is).
sorry, i can't be of more help, but i only have the vinyl versions of these two songs. no digital copies, or tapeable versions. if someone had access to digital copies, that would be fab.
*waits on pins & needles*
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Post by scoOter on Jan 12, 2008 9:58:52 GMT -5
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Post by mrblasty on Jan 12, 2008 19:08:49 GMT -5
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Post by lifeandlifeonly on Jan 12, 2008 19:31:08 GMT -5
Is all of this Bash & Pop? (It sounds like it) I know "Makin' Me Sick" is. |
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Post by mrblasty on Jan 12, 2008 20:06:56 GMT -5
Situation and Makin' Me Sick are B&P songs, and I think that Hate It is solo Tommy from around the B&P days.
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Post by Trenton on Jan 12, 2008 20:40:45 GMT -5
Geez...the only place I can find anything Bash & Pop related is an Amazon or Ebay. Ha! Too bad I can't download it anywhere...I don't want to have to wait for it to come in the mail. I'm shiftless when I'm idle...
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wibbler
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Post by wibbler on Jan 13, 2008 4:01:29 GMT -5
Tommy also recorded a cover of The Clash's 'Hateful' Hateful was released with Uncut magazine No. 79 / 2, December 2003 on the accompanying CD "White Riot Vol Two A tribute to The Clash". www.uncut.net/Two different versions of the zine and CD were issued that month. Different pictures on the zine cover and different songs on the CDs. Tommy's version of Hateful is only on No. 2. There's a sample of it on www.tommystinson.com/ music page |
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Post by paulie on Jan 13, 2008 9:10:18 GMT -5
did tommy ever colaberate with bob besides the mats on his c.d.s?
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Post by scoOter on Jan 13, 2008 13:46:19 GMT -5
i knew blass-2-tha-t would come through! last night, i listened to my 45's of "situation" & "fugitive", and i liked "situation" a little more.
and now i have it in itunes! thanks blast! and i have a copy of "hate it" to boot!
the only other possible b-side i know of is talked about in the liner notes of "once, twice...". during the "vgh" sessions he cut a "new, very different version of 'seven days a week' (look for it as one of the b-sides from 'village gorilla head')"
hmmm...
hmmm...
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Post by flipstain on Jan 13, 2008 17:53:31 GMT -5
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Post by Lieworth T. Elling III on Jan 16, 2008 15:45:38 GMT -5
friday night - masterpiece
village gorilla head - masterpiece
squirrells play chicken - it's ok
once twice three - eh
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nazareth
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Post by nazareth on Jan 20, 2008 0:23:05 GMT -5
I posted what i know to be the Tommy Rarities over on the tommy board....(other than live cover songs).
Satellite (Replacements B-Side...only Mats song written/sang by Tommy)
Situation (Bash & Pop B-Side to Fast and Hard)
Harboring a Fugitive (Bash & Pop B-Side on split w/ His Name Is Alive)
Making Me Sick (Bash & Pop on Clerks soundtrack)
Peg Song (Perfect from the original 7 Days a Week Album)
Don't Look Down (Perfect Demo)
Wake You Up (played live solo in promo shows for Perfect)
Hate It (played live solo in promo shows for Perfect. He said it came out on a magazine sampler. Is this true?)
It's All About the Benjamins (Remixed Puff Daddy song with Tommy on Guitar)
Your Demise (played live solo in promo shows for Perfect)
Hateful (Clash cover)
You can't always get what you want (Stones Cover)
As for him solo, everything in my opinion is great. Track down some acoustic live shows as well, they're great.
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Post by scoOter on Jan 21, 2008 12:30:21 GMT -5
I posted what i know to be the Tommy Rarities over on the tommy board....(other than live cover songs). Satellite (Replacements B-Side...only Mats song written/sang by Tommy) Situation (Bash & Pop B-Side to Fast and Hard) Harboring a Fugitive (Bash & Pop B-Side on split w/ His Name Is Alive) Making Me Sick (Bash & Pop on Clerks soundtrack) Peg Song (Perfect from the original 7 Days a Week Album) Don't Look Down (Perfect Demo) Wake You Up (played live solo in promo shows for Perfect) Hate It (played live solo in promo shows for Perfect. He said it came out on a magazine sampler. Is this true?) It's All About the Benjamins (Remixed Puff Daddy song with Tommy on Guitar) Your Demise (played live solo in promo shows for Perfect) Hateful (Clash cover) You can't always get what you want (Stones Cover) As for him solo, everything in my opinion is great. Track down some acoustic live shows as well, they're great. the only ones i am unfamiliar with are: don't look down, wake you up, and your demise. wake you up, and your demise i have probably heard during one of the 6 or 7 tommy/perfect shows i saw in the mid 90s - early 2000s, but i don't recognize them by name. anyway, nazareth is completely correct about the acoustic solo shows. those were always great. it's been a long time since he has played at the uptown... |
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Post by nazareth on Jan 21, 2008 13:27:53 GMT -5
I posted what i know to be the Tommy Rarities over on the tommy board....(other than live cover songs). Satellite (Replacements B-Side...only Mats song written/sang by Tommy) Situation (Bash & Pop B-Side to Fast and Hard) Harboring a Fugitive (Bash & Pop B-Side on split w/ His Name Is Alive) Making Me Sick (Bash & Pop on Clerks soundtrack) Peg Song (Perfect from the original 7 Days a Week Album) Don't Look Down (Perfect Demo) Wake You Up (played live solo in promo shows for Perfect) Hate It (played live solo in promo shows for Perfect. He said it came out on a magazine sampler. Is this true?) It's All About the Benjamins (Remixed Puff Daddy song with Tommy on Guitar) Your Demise (played live solo in promo shows for Perfect) Hateful (Clash cover) You can't always get what you want (Stones Cover) As for him solo, everything in my opinion is great. Track down some acoustic live shows as well, they're great. the only ones i am unfamiliar with are: don't look down, wake you up, and your demise. wake you up, and your demise i have probably heard during one of the 6 or 7 tommy/perfect shows i saw in the mid 90s - early 2000s, but i don't recognize them by name. anyway, nazareth is completely correct about the acoustic solo shows. those were always great. it's been a long time since he has played at the uptown... The only reason i know about wake you up and your demise is because i downloaded a boot a while back with those songs on it. Your demise is great and he leads it into FNIKM. I'll try to find out the info for the show when i get home. |
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