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Post by nowwesayitoutloud on Nov 25, 2006 17:36:51 GMT -5
Somewhere I've heard the story of how the Stink EP cover came to be hand-stamped, something about Twin/Tone rushing out a new release but one of the co-owners not wanting to sink a lot of money into it.
Recently I heard a tale of a MPLS label that did the same thing at least 10 years earlier. Dave Ray of the early 60s folk trio Koerner Ray & Glover produced some other bands' records in the early 70s and regularly used the hand-stamped, blank album cover technique because he just didn't think album art was where the money should be spent.
I don't know if the Twin/Tone guys would have known about Dave Ray's records or got the idea from him. Does anyone know of the handstamping thing was done in other towns in other times?
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Post by hudson99 on Nov 25, 2006 19:36:37 GMT -5
Although it's possible that it was the Koerner Ray & Glover connection that inspired the hand-stamped covers, I think it probably has more to do with the overal D.I.Y. aesthetics of the times. It wasn't an unusual step in the early punk days, particularly in England. I could be wrong, but I think the first Buzzcocks single was initially issued this way, as were most of the original Rough Trade releases. In fact, there's a British single whose stamp included the costs associated with the release.
Didn't Twin/Tone not want to release Stink? I seem to recall reading that they felt it was too close to the release of Sorry Ma, and/or they were unsure that they wanted to continue to be the 'mats' label.
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Post by scoOter on Nov 29, 2006 8:53:50 GMT -5
i'll handstamp you.
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Post by jodi, queen of the underground on Nov 29, 2006 12:38:41 GMT -5
I don't know much about the orgin of the handstamp, but a former co-worker of mine (who was dating someone who worked at Northern Lights in the early 80s) said that they all sat in the basement of Northern Lights and stamped the records and that's why they're all so fucked up.
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Post by hudson99 on Nov 29, 2006 19:29:49 GMT -5
I thought it was done at Oarfolkjokepus (or however it was spelled). I don't know much about the orgin of the handstamp, but a former co-worker of mine (who was dating someone who worked at Northern Lights in the early 80s) said that they all sat in the basement of Northern Lights and stamped the records and that's why they're all so fucked up. |
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Post by Jer on Nov 29, 2006 21:44:43 GMT -5
the way i heard it was that the first pressing of the EP were actually hand stamped, then a second pressing with a printed version of the hand stamp was released. Does this sound right? I actually have one of the hand stamped ones and always wondered how many there are...
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Post by cford on Nov 30, 2006 10:43:05 GMT -5
the way i heard it was that the first pressing of the EP were actually hand stamped, then a second pressing with a printed version of the hand stamp was released. Does this sound right? I actually have one of the hand stamped ones and always wondered how many there are... - Jer That is often repeated Replacements lore... I assume its true, although I have never actually seen a handstamped Stink.. I do not see how they could have done very many of them that way, so yours would probably be valuable to collectors. CF |
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Post by SnowCover on Nov 30, 2006 10:56:58 GMT -5
My folks have two copies of Stink. I think one is the second printed pressing and the other is handstamped. The one I think is handstamped is smudged.
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Post by hudson99 on Nov 30, 2006 17:28:22 GMT -5
I do not see how they could have done very many of them that wayCF Why? Four bandmembers, plus a few friends could quite easily stamp a thousand in one evening. |
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Post by Jer on Nov 30, 2006 17:47:27 GMT -5
i seem to remember 1000 or 1500 being tossed around as the quantity of the first pressing, but that was a long time ago so my memory might not be too acurrate...
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Post by mrblasty on Nov 30, 2006 17:58:30 GMT -5
From the TwinTone website: This "mini-LP" was released on June 24, 1982. The first three pressings (2,000 + 1,500 + 1,500) used hand stamped white jackets. Each pressing had unique markings and were easily told apart. (First was black, the second was red, the third was done in black with a fake bar code made from a cut out "potato stamp") For the fourth and future pressings we went to pre-printed jackets. The final pressing in the late eighties (to run out the jackets) of aprox 1,000 were pressed on colored vinyl. |
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Post by cford on Dec 1, 2006 11:23:09 GMT -5
I do not see how they could have done very many of them that wayCF Why? Four bandmembers, plus a few friends could quite easily stamp a thousand in one evening. Sounds like fun! I can just picture Paul, Tommy, Chris and Bob sitting around with a few beers handstamping covers! CF |
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Post by nowwesayitoutloud on Dec 1, 2006 20:57:29 GMT -5
Why? Four bandmembers, plus a few friends could quite easily stamp a thousand in one evening. Sounds like fun! I can just picture Paul, Tommy, Chris and Bob sitting around with a few beers handstamping covers! CF I can't picture them sticking with it though. 500 tops. |
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Post by hudson99 on Dec 3, 2006 22:17:31 GMT -5
Maybe, so, but I'll bet you that Jesperson and a few others more than made up for their ADD. Sounds like fun! I can just picture Paul, Tommy, Chris and Bob sitting around with a few beers handstamping covers! CF I can't picture them sticking with it though. 500 tops. |
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Post by Jer on Dec 4, 2006 7:42:28 GMT -5
Here's a pic of my copy:  |
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Post by A Regular on Dec 4, 2006 14:24:22 GMT -5
I've got a Red Stamp copy, but it cost me a few rubles.
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