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Post by headlightbeams on Jan 5, 2006 0:23:11 GMT -5
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Post by A Regular on Jan 5, 2006 10:31:48 GMT -5
My favorite post was:
I hated them for twenty years and then I got a hankerin' to hear "Bastards of Young" and I bought the greatest hits and as it turns out they're pretty great once you don't have Robert Hilburn yellin' in yer ear every five minutes tryin' to tell you how Westerberg's a genius.
Thought that was pretty funny and no doubt true.
Even funnier was the disdain for official "rock critics" in a post, right before the poster went into a rant/rave that would have made any paid rock critic proud/groan. They talk about band envy, but sometimes I wonder if those of us that post lengthy rock criticism on this internet thing suffer from rock critic envy.
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Post by GoddamnJob290 on Jan 5, 2006 13:22:23 GMT -5
For those of you who don't want to spend 40 minutes taking all that in, here's a summary of the discussion:
"The Mats were great! They were so drunk! CLASSIC. You DON'T GET THEM!"
"The Mats? Pha! A snobbish, clubby nickname if I ever heard one. They were crap too. Just boring, nothing special. The worst from the twin cities if you ask me. So dated! You're all fooling yourself to think that those hacks were so relevant. What was so appealing about them anyway? I DON'T GET IT!"
That sums up both positions as best as I can.
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Post by landshark on Jan 5, 2006 15:20:43 GMT -5
thanks GDJob, you nailed it, wish I read your post before wasting all that time -- funny moments, but guess you had to be there
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Post by headlightbeams on Jan 5, 2006 17:06:05 GMT -5
Well, you're all welcome.
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Post by GoddamnJob290 on Jan 5, 2006 18:21:52 GMT -5
Well, you're all welcome. Well, thanks. Hanging around a Paul Westerberg fansite does tend to put you in a bit of a bubble where roughly everyone LOVES the Replacements and the appeal of their music is sort of an unspoken truth, so it's always good to be introduced to the exact opposite opinion. Keeps everything in it's proper perspective. For instance, I used to say many of the same negative things said about the Mats in the discussion about Nirvana, but nowadays I've come around to them and, even though they still aren't one of my favorites, I have an appreciation for them and realize how completely full of shit I was.
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Post by A Regular on Jan 5, 2006 18:31:20 GMT -5
Well, you're all welcome. For instance, I used to say many of the same negative things said about the Mats in the discussion about Nirvana, but nowadays I've come around to them and, even though they still aren't one of my favorites, I have an appreciation for them and realize how completely full of shit I was. No you weren't.
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Post by GoddamnJob290 on Jan 5, 2006 20:53:59 GMT -5
For instance, I used to say many of the same negative things said about the Mats in the discussion about Nirvana, but nowadays I've come around to them and, even though they still aren't one of my favorites, I have an appreciation for them and realize how completely full of shit I was. No you weren't. Well, I wouldn't say I love 'em now either.
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Post by thetwilitekid on Jan 6, 2006 0:02:59 GMT -5
since I'm currently listening to the album and this talk of Nirvana....
What album kept Nirvana's Nevermind from debuting at #1 on the Canadian College Charts?
Hint the band's first two albums (including this one) were produced and/or mixed by Matt Wallace.
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Post by headlightbeams on Jan 6, 2006 0:57:17 GMT -5
The Singing Mounties?
I was just surprised to see that Classic vs. Dud thread sustained over four years.
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Post by thetwilitekid on Jan 8, 2006 20:30:16 GMT -5
ooo, so close. No, actually, it was the Sons of Freedom and their album 'Gump,' named after the great hockey goalie Gump Worsley. But instead of Gump on the album cover, it has a demented, baby-esque, Frank Black lookalike in red lingerie.
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Post by scoOter on Jan 10, 2006 15:32:04 GMT -5
i just plopped a response onto the bottom of that wretched thread.
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Post by FreeRider on Jan 10, 2006 15:51:04 GMT -5
I was just surprised to see that Classic vs. Dud thread sustained over four years. yeah, that is kind of interesting that it's been going on for 4 years. if the Mats inspire that kind of passion to keep a thread going for 4 years, love 'em or hate 'em, then I would say they are classic. they're still pissin' people off and I find that kind of cool. ;D if they were really irrelevant, that thread would've died out a long time ago.
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Post by The Lizzard on Feb 1, 2006 9:16:54 GMT -5
I just spent about 20 mintues reading some of that thread. I've got a few thoughts/questions about it:
The whole thing stank of dogma ("The 'Mats suck and you're wrong if you don't agree!" "No, you suck! The 'Mats are god! If you don't agree then you're a flawed human being!") I'd write that thread off as a huge waste of time if it wasn't for the fact that it made me feel that next time I'm talking to someone who likes something I don't, I'm going to try my damnedest to not be a judgemental, dismissive prick.
And quite frankly, the 'Mats aren't classics or duds. They're GRRRRRRRREAT! (Tony the Tiger says so.)
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