Brad
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Post by Brad on Mar 6, 2005 18:38:48 GMT -5
Not to sound ungrateful. I loved what I did get when I saw him. These are few songs I wanted to hear but didn't and I was curious where others stand is all.
He can play whatever he wants and I'll probably love it though.
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Post by fungo on Mar 6, 2005 20:57:53 GMT -5
To hear all the song I want live, Paul would have to play for five hours, so there will always be songs he doesn't play that I'd like to hear. I voted for Things, but the song I really wanted to hear live was IOU. I bet that sounds great with this line-up and I know he played it in other cities, but wasn't played here in Phoenix.
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Post by paulie on Mar 6, 2005 21:21:26 GMT -5
the eyes have it!
and a heart like gasoline......
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Post by FirstAveFiend on Mar 6, 2005 22:00:04 GMT -5
I voted Gun Shy. I've seen all but 23 years ago, Gun Shy and Wonderful Lie(duh Guthrie show), but with this band I like the rockers!
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Post by scoOter on Mar 6, 2005 23:30:23 GMT -5
once the monday morning posters roll in, i predict that gun shy will absolutely run the board here.
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woofagoofa
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Post by woofagoofa on Mar 7, 2005 0:01:50 GMT -5
I'm never going to buy the Singles soundtrack, so it was my only chance to hear Waiting For Somebody whenever Paul played it live.......and he ALWAYS played that song 1rst or 2nd for years. But now it seems to have perhaps been retired. Bummer.
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Post by Seamus on Mar 7, 2005 0:34:52 GMT -5
The song not on the poll that I would like to hear is "Unsatisfied". When he did it in LA acoustic two years ago it was unbelievable. I would love to hear that magic again. It had so much emotion...totally charged.
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Brad
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Post by Brad on Mar 7, 2005 2:16:46 GMT -5
The song not on the poll that I would like to hear is "Unsatisfied". When he did it in LA acoustic two years ago it was unbelievable. I would love to hear that magic again. It had so much emotion...totally charged. Tough luck on that one. I think I read where Paul said he hated playing it and the instore performance was kind of a "one last time" thing. It's a definite classic though. |
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Brad
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Post by Brad on Mar 7, 2005 2:20:53 GMT -5
To hear all the song I want live, Paul would have to play for five hours, so there will always be songs he doesn't play that I'd like to hear. I voted for Things, but the song I really wanted to hear live was IOU. I bet that sounds great with this line-up . I agree that it would be a long ass how if I heard everything I wanted. I didn't put IOU on there because I heard it at the first LA show. You're right though in your assumption, it sounds great with this line up. |
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Post by A Regular on Mar 7, 2005 8:10:41 GMT -5
Tough luck on that one. I think I read where Paul said he hated playing it and the instore performance was kind of a "one last time" thing. It's a definite classic though. Agreed he doesn't like playing it, but he DID play an electric version in Indy, after the LA in-store, which brought tears down my cheek...partially thinking I'll likely never hear this again, like this..and partially because it was raw, and angry, and sad. I thanked him afterwards for playing it, and he apologized for messing up the intro....like I cared? Said this before but I wish he would turn into into a slower blues number which could reflect middle aged unsatisfaction. It exists, and that version would floor me, literally. |
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Post by Harry on Mar 7, 2005 10:39:50 GMT -5
Said this before but I wish he would turn (Unsatisfied) into into a slower blues number which could reflect middle aged unsatisfaction. Blasphemy |
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Post by cellarfullofnoise on Mar 7, 2005 10:52:10 GMT -5
That seems like a good compromise, if he is a bit tired of playing some of the old Mats standards yet people are still dying to hear them. Re-work them into some fairly different but still recognizable version. Not at the end of the show, when you do just want to hear a walls-to-the-ball version of "Left of the Dial," but for those mid-show standards that can be a bit, well, standard. If the band stays intact, they could have some fun altering the classics.
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Post by A Regular on Mar 7, 2005 11:03:50 GMT -5
Hey, I love the tune as the next guy, but if PW feels that song is no longer relevant in an advanced age (as is reported somewhere around here) I think he's mistaken. Slowing the pace would make it sadder, more resigned, less angry, but the lyrics would still pack a wallop. Besides, being a blasphemer is kind of fun! |
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Post by Harry on Mar 7, 2005 11:58:02 GMT -5
Besides, being a blasphemer is kind of fun! Nothing wrong with slowing the pace (although it's not really so much "fast" as it is just loud or emotional or rockin....) or making it sadder or anything. What irks me a little bit (and you might reasonably say "that's your problem) is the suggestion that it should be made into "a blues number". I like to try to listen to and appreciate a lot of varied forms of music, but for some reason i've just had it up to my eyeballs with over-homage to the Blues. Scroll to the AMR archives (if you need something to put you to sleep) and check out my treatise on how the twin evils of Boomer Blues Fixation and Classic Rock Radio conspired to deny the Mats and the Huskers from getting their rightful audience. |
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Post by cellarfullofnoise on Mar 7, 2005 12:12:27 GMT -5
Scroll to the AMR archives (if you need something to put you to sleep) and check out my treatise on how the twin evils of Boomer Blues Fixation and Classic Rock Radio conspired to deny the Mats and the Huskers from getting their rightful audience. Good faith effort ... couldn't find it. |
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Post by Harry on Mar 7, 2005 12:36:54 GMT -5
Good faith effort ... couldn't find it. Cellar...you actually looked? I'm touched...ok sorry I was kidding, it wasn't really a "treatise", just an ongoing thread that we had going on, over on the message board that dares not speak it's name, actually. But in a nutshell.....consider the disastrous implications for "our music" (if you'll allow me broad latitude with that term..) of the timing of the advent of Classic Rock Radio in the early 80's. Right when early REM, Mats, U2 and just SO much great music was starting to come out. Classic Rock Radio was the ultimate (for us) manifestation of Boomer Cultural Hegemony. Boomers had to hog the mic, not get off the stage, not move on and try to listen to new wave and alternative and the stuff that the young-uns were putting out....and because the Boomers were such a desired cohort from a marketing standpoint, they actually got their way and hijacked the culture. Your town's biggest wattage FM station became a Classic Rock Station. The stuff that should have been the cutting edge of rock became Alternative/Underground. And REM, Mats, Huskers were denied their rightful audience. Tragic, really  Recently I was out at some sort of festival up here, where our Classic Rock station (WZLX) was running a remote broadcast from a tent. And it was all guys in their 20's working there....and I had a little fun with them, such as "You know, you're selling out your own generation perpetuating this classic rock stuff".....and "Hey....it's been 20 years....WHEN do the Mats and Huskers get to become 'classic rock' for crying out loud?" |
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Post by twicks on Mar 7, 2005 14:01:13 GMT -5
"Silent Film Star." Great version on Letterman a few years back, but never performed on the solo tour or with this band, if I'm correct.
Probably my favorite song of the Vagrant years.
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Post by fungo on Mar 7, 2005 14:34:05 GMT -5
Cellar...you actually looked? I'm touched...ok sorry I was kidding, it wasn't really a "treatise", just an ongoing thread that we had going on, over on the message board that dares not speak it's name, actually. But in a nutshell.....consider the disastrous implications for "our music" (if you'll allow me broad latitude with that term..) of the timing of the advent of Classic Rock Radio in the early 80's. Right when early REM, Mats, U2 and just SO much great music was starting to come out. Classic Rock Radio was the ultimate (for us) manifestation of Boomer Cultural Hegemony. Boomers had to hog the mic, not get off the stage, not move on and try to listen to new wave and alternative and the stuff that the young-uns were putting out....and because the Boomers were such a desired cohort from a marketing standpoint, they actually got their way and hijacked the culture. Your town's biggest wattage FM station became a Classic Rock Station. The stuff that should have been the cutting edge of rock became Alternative/Underground. And REM, Mats, Huskers were denied their rightful audience. Tragic, really Recently I was out at some sort of festival up here, where our Classic Rock station (WZLX) was running a remote broadcast from a tent. And it was all guys in their 20's working there....and I had a little fun with them, such as "You know, you're selling out your own generation perpetuating this classic rock stuff".....and "Hey....it's been 20 years....WHEN do the Mats and Huskers get to become 'classic rock' for crying out loud?" Very interesting take on the situation, and I agree to a large extent. But I'm more likely to blame MTV for killing any chance of the "college-radio" music becoming bigger. Although there certainly were bands/artists that were more about image than substance back in the late '60's and the '70's, for the most part it was still about the music. (Radio was the primary avenue for bands to be discovered.) Then in the '80's when MTV was created, it became about image first. Notice U2 didn't hit it really big until Joshua Tree came out. You couldn't turn on MTV without seeing Bono posing for the camera in one of their videos. (Note: I'm in no way bashing U2 or Joshua Tree. I'm a fan of both.) Bands like the Replacements that didn't change their image or spend millions on slick videos for MTV didn't have a chance. |
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Post by A Regular on Mar 7, 2005 15:03:13 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with slowing the pace (although it's not really so much "fast" as it is just loud or emotional or rockin....) or making it sadder or anything. What irks me a little bit (and you might reasonably say "that's your problem) is the suggestion that it should be made into "a blues number". My bad choice of words, as I didn't mean it in a "traditional" blues sense, but more in mood, kind of like A Regular can be seen as a blues number, in spirit and mood. I didn't mean alot of slide notes, or something sounding like Dead Man Shake. Bluesy in the Frank Sinatra genre I guess you could say, not the Son Seals style, or SRV style. It would be a great drinking song, in my own humble... And though I might agree with some of your larger argument, I'd say U2 and REM did just fine with this hijacking. And it bugs me some that X and the Mats are "unheard music", but if they can live with it, I'll shrug. Radio sucked in the 70s too, which is when I stopped listening to it. I wonder if that is why we boomers turned to blues as Rock and Roll on the radio was recognized as crap, so some looked elsewhere? Its not like the blues has this large share of the radio market, and is usually left of the dial with the other bands you mention so I'm not sure how that fits your version? And oh yeah, Styx and REO are on a double bill coming to Cincy. Get your tickets NOW! |
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Post by Harry on Mar 7, 2005 15:19:09 GMT -5
I'd say U2 and REM did just fine with this hijacking. Eventually yes, with the case of REM, but by the time they got big enough to play a place like Beacon Th. or later Radio City MH (e.g.)...their best days (the divinely inspired run of Chronic Town thru LR Pageant) were behind them. For U2...somebody here said they hit it big with Tree, but I recall them being pretty huge already by War. |
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