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Post by curmudgeonman on Dec 4, 2018 15:05:11 GMT -5
I know many here wishes Westerberg would put out a well-crafted, properly produced album. One for the ages. And that means, at least in my opinion, not another self-produced basement project.
Who are your ideal producers for a Westerberg record? Not only just a guy to create sounds, but to motivate him to bring his best to the studio.
One choice is Rick Ruben. Not a fan of much of his work (Aerosmith, Beastie Boys, Red Hot Chili Peppers, etc), but just based on his work with Johnny Cash, Tom Petty, and especially Neil Diamond, I think the guy would be able to coax a really good album out of Westerberg. His bare-bones, dry sound is ideal, since Westerberg prefers this sound.
I think Jeff Lynne would be an interesting producer. Westerberg has created some excellent pop songs in his career and a guy like Lynne, no slouch in the pop department, can maybe create a full-blown pop album for Westy. I really like his production on George Harrison's Cloud Nine album, and I'm a huge ELO fan.
The likelihood of anything resembling the above is remote, but I still think he needs a collaborator in the studio.
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Post by anarkissed on Dec 4, 2018 16:56:15 GMT -5
I like the Jeff Lynne idea. I think Jack Douglas would have been a good producer for something like "Tim" or "PTMM". Not sure he fits solo Paul. I would say Todd Rundgren, but I've heard and read that he can be really controlling and borderline abusive to his artists, something I'm sure Paul wouldn't play along with. What about Bob Mould? Billy Corgan? I don't know; I keep thinking it would work better with a strong personality in that role, but that seems like asking for trouble...
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Post by Hagbard on Dec 4, 2018 17:37:45 GMT -5
Maybe T Bone Burnett?
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Post by nyc1lkg on Dec 7, 2018 17:42:17 GMT -5
I agree with some of the known producers like Rubin and Burnette. They coax great records from great artists. I think it would be interesting to see of some interesting artists could work with Paul. How about Beck? Or Peter Wolf? Or Lucinda Williams? or Justin Townes Earle? Who produces Jason Isbell's records? Hell, let's let Robert Pollard crank one out with him. Or St. Vincent (Anne Clark?)?
Rubin's work with Johnny Cash and Neil Diamond is nothing short of amazing(props to curmudgeonman).
What about Mike Campbell of TP and the Heartbreakers??
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Post by firespirit on Dec 12, 2018 4:30:57 GMT -5
Phil Spector or Jimmy Miller...
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Post by raccoon on Dec 12, 2018 21:34:07 GMT -5
Jeff Tweedy
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Post by dee on Dec 13, 2018 22:26:31 GMT -5
Tommy Stinson
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Post by brianlux on Dec 15, 2018 2:55:26 GMT -5
I know many here wishes Westerberg would put out a well-crafted, properly produced album. One for the ages. And that means, at least in my opinion, not another self-produced basement project. Who are your ideal producers for a Westerberg record? Not only just a guy to create sounds, but to motivate him to bring his best to the studio. One choice is Rick Ruben. Not a fan of much of his work (Aerosmith, Beastie Boys, Red Hot Chili Peppers, etc), but just based on his work with Johnny Cash, Tom Petty, and especially Neil Diamond, I think the guy would be able to coax a really good album out of Westerberg. His bare-bones, dry sound is ideal, since Westerberg prefers this sound. I think Jeff Lynne would be an interesting producer. Westerberg has created some excellent pop songs in his career and a guy like Lynne, no slouch in the pop department, can maybe create a full-blown pop album for Westy. I really like his production on George Harrison's Cloud Nine album, and I'm a huge ELO fan. The likelihood of anything resembling the above is remote, but I still think he needs a collaborator in the studio. I remember reading about when Rick Ruben got together with Neil Diamond and how for a number of days (or weeks?) all they did was play records and talk about music and this got Diamond's creative juices flowing and he came out with one of the best records of his career, 12 Songs. I would love it if Ruben did the same with Paul. |
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Post by Schecky on Dec 15, 2018 18:07:42 GMT -5
I’m not sure with Rubin, it really depends on how he connects with the artist (I suppose that’s true with all producers)
Lynne or Burnette would be cool.
George Martin and Ray Manzarek would have pulled out some great things.
Maybe Ray Davies.
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Post by dee on Dec 20, 2018 21:47:50 GMT -5
Maybe PW does everything himself because he enjoys playing and recording everything himself.
I'd like to see PW work with Scott Litt and write songs for an imaginary Cameron Crowe movie.
Also like to hear some horns again.
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Post by FreeRider on Dec 23, 2018 11:57:15 GMT -5
Maybe PW does everything himself because he enjoys playing and recording everything himself. I'd like to see PW work with Scott Litt and write songs for an imaginary Cameron Crowe movie. Also like to hear some horns again. you know, sometimes what makes artists great is that they're not like anyone else. They function differently, so maybe it's laziness on PW's part not to get back into a formal studio, etc...or it's just like you said: he enjoys doing it all himself. Now, that's fine. But maybe he could use a trusted friend, someone to tell him it's bullshit or he could try and tweak something to give the songs a little more oomph! And perhaps to Paul's ears, it sounds great and fine---to him. These artists hear things differently than we do, it seems. There was a story from one of Neil Young's guitar techs about touring over in Europe. During his guitar soundcheck, Neil says, "Hmm, sounds like the voltage is cycling a little lower to me...." . The guitar tech, thought, no way. So he goes to check and sure enough, the current was not a full capacity and Neil had heard it! True story? Maybe. But I don't doubt a guy like Neil hears things differently in his own head and in what's actually physically presented to him. Hmmm, some horns again, eh? In what style? Like bluesy horn section in Neil Young's blues album This Note's For You? When I think of trumpet stuff, I always think of this weird, but strangely appealing tune by Propaganda from the 80's, loved the trumpet in this and I'm not sure why. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4E1zMLghhY |
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Post by dee on Dec 24, 2018 6:01:55 GMT -5
Well it's kind of like John Lennon going from the Beatles to Plastic Ono Band. Someone asked John about the music being so stripped down and John was like "I still hear all of that other stuff in the songs". Like the production was just something added to the songs,but it wasn't the song,and he was fine with that.
I think PW makes creative recording choices.You can hear a lot of subtle stuff in there like a tremolo guitar sound that is perfectly placed,but at times he'll let some things slip through that kind of take away from the tune.
Just having horns like on Pleased To Meet Me or Mannequin Shop or Trumpet Clip or Ain't Done Much.Just something like that.
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Post by bigbak on Jan 12, 2019 16:21:42 GMT -5
Steve Lillywhite
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Post by raccoon on Jan 12, 2019 19:10:21 GMT -5
Anybody mention Daniel Lanois yet? Bet he would mesh well with Paul.
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Post by curmudgeonman on Jan 14, 2019 15:44:28 GMT -5
I would say Todd Rundgren, but I've heard and read that he can be really controlling and borderline abusive to his artists, something I'm sure Paul wouldn't play along with. Just watched a video clip of Rundgren interviewed by Steve Jones (Sex Pistols) and among other things, talks about his time with the New York Dolls and XTC. Jones asks him about current production jobs and it doesn't sound like there are any- he says the industry has completely changed, and harking back to another thread, he talks about the days of making money off of record sales is kaput, and never really existed. His opinion is touring = money. Interesting interview, I have been a big fan of Todd in the past. |
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