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Post by thematsarealive on Feb 5, 2018 23:06:49 GMT -5
Regarding "We are the Normal": "Rzeznik: I mean, we did the whole thing through the mail. We were never in the same room with each other. It was typical of what that guy’s all about. You do something really cool, he gets excited and then… writes you a nasty letter saying don’t talk to me. It’s typical for that guy. But I’m no different than any of the other people in that guy’s life I suppose. But we wrote a great song together. Though it was through corresponding through the mail – which I think is f-----g hilarious. It was a much slower process back then. It was one of those things. But that was when I realized, “You know, this guy has been a big influence on me.” As well as bands like Echo & The Bunnymen and The Cure and The Clash. Soul Asylum and Husker Du. I was always into sort of that midwestern alternative rock." Paul please release a new album.www.chicagonow.com/chicago-at-night/2017/07/interview-johnny-rzeznik-goo-goo-dolls-preview-huntington-bank-pavilion-northerly-island-5050/ |
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Post by con on Feb 6, 2018 1:09:49 GMT -5
Woah! Wild, thanks for sharing. News to me. The song sounds vaguely Westerberg-ian in an Eventually kinda way (the phrasing, the awkward wording). The "get lost" behavior sounds 100% Westerberg-ian!
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Post by Jer on Feb 6, 2018 14:41:12 GMT -5
I think that's arguably the weakest song on that record, musically at least. It's actually an incredible record that I'm really fond of. I thought they were great for a 3-record stretch there, but not a fan of what they've become. I saw them open for the Mats in 91 in Cleveland, which was my introduction to them. Loved their sound, but the yellow capri pants, not so much.
Supposedly they sent Paul the demos or rough mixes for a few songs, specified the one he was supposed to write lyrics to, he ignored the note and wrote the lyrics to WATN instead, and they went with it.
Anyhow, It's an interesting and honest perspective Johnny has - like, yeah, he turned into a bit of jerk, but I might be too in his position, and I'm glad we got to work together and just want a new record from him!
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Post by thematsarealive on Feb 6, 2018 17:13:33 GMT -5
I think that's arguably the weakest song on that record, musically at least. It's actually an incredible record that I'm really fond of. I thought they were great for a 3-record stretch there, but not a fan of what they've become. I saw them open for the Mats in 91 in Cleveland, which was my introduction to them. Loved their sound, but the yellow capri pants, not so much. Supposedly they sent Paul the demos or rough mixes for a few songs, specified the one he was supposed to write lyrics to, he ignored the note and wrote the lyrics to WATN instead, and they went with it. Anyhow, It's an interesting and honest perspective Johnny has - like, yeah, he turned into a bit of jerk, but I might be too in his position, and I'm glad we got to work together and just want a new record from him! I agree Superstar Car Wash was a great album! I haven't listened to it in a long time but I put on some of their other songs last night. Sorry about that new album note - I can remove it from my post - that was just my comment I wrote after I pasted in the quote. I had been having a few drinks too many when i posted that last night and I guess I am always hoping to see new music when I come on here. |
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Post by FreeRider on Feb 6, 2018 17:20:43 GMT -5
I remember some article that said Johnny was so amped to meet Paul at some concert or festival they were both playing and he tried to hand Paul a copy of the band's CD backstage. Johnny said to Paul, "We did this because of you."
Paul supposedly kept walking and said, "Hey, don't blame me!"
That could be seen as funny or kind of dick-ish, or both. Wish I could find that article.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Feb 6, 2018 17:25:30 GMT -5
... like, yeah, he turned into a bit of jerk, but I might be too in his positionWell, he didn't really say that. He said he was no different than all the other people that Paul has been a dick to. |
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Post by ujraht on Feb 6, 2018 20:24:08 GMT -5
Great interview! Thanks for sharing!
Having read Troubled Boys makes this unsurprising, but entertaining non the less.
Was just listening to Live at Lingerie and what a great compliment that is to Live at Maxwells,
Thanks again,
Tom
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Post by Jer on Feb 7, 2018 8:40:21 GMT -5
Sorry about that new album note - I can remove it from my post - that was just my comment I wrote after I pasted in the quote. I had been having a few drinks too many when i posted that last night and I guess I am always hoping to see new music when I come on here. Haha - yeah I took that in context with the quote. Thanks for clarifying, Well, he didn't really say that. He said he was no different than all the other people that Paul has been a dick to. Yeah, I suppose I was kinda just conjecturing. He never implied that he would be the same in that position. My point was meant to say that Johnny seemed understanding and forgiving about that incident, especially from the perspective of where he's sitting now, having more success and longevity than Paul did. |
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Post by curmudgeonman on Feb 8, 2018 11:06:00 GMT -5
The Goo Goo Dolls were an OK band back in the day. I still have vinyl records, haven't played them in years. I remember seeing them in a little San Francisco club during the Gavin Convention (radio) and this was back when they were playing in bare feet. Rodney Bingenheimer was standing behind me, hung out for a couple of songs, then walked out.
I once read an interview describing when the Goo Goo Dolls opened for the 'Mats; one time before the band came out to play, the 'Mats carpeted the stage with stickers, gummy side up, so when their opening act came out in bare feet, the stickers stuck to the bottoms of their feet, eventually creating large paper snowshoes. But I assume these guys knew each other, more than mere acquaintances. Resnick once gave Westerberg a Gibson ES-355, nice guitar.
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Post by firespirit on Feb 9, 2018 2:05:59 GMT -5
The Goo Goo Dolls were an OK band back in the day. I still have vinyl records, haven't played them in years. I remember seeing them in a little San Francisco club during the Gavin Convention (radio) and this was back when they were playing in bare feet. Rodney Bingenheimer was standing behind me, hung out for a couple of songs, then walked out. I once read an interview describing when the Goo Goo Dolls opened for the 'Mats; one time before the band came out to play, the 'Mats carpeted the stage with stickers, gummy side up, so when their opening act came out in bare feet, the stickers stuck to the bottoms of their feet, eventually creating large paper snowshoes. But I assume these guys knew each other, more than mere acquaintances. Resnick once gave Westerberg a Gibson ES-355, nice guitar. Rodney B probably didnt like the Goo Goo Dolls cuz there was no cute girls in the band. Lol |
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Post by robinn on Feb 9, 2018 7:45:38 GMT -5
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Post by Jer on Feb 9, 2018 16:30:13 GMT -5
Wow, what a rabbit hole that just sent me down. Those demos are great. I would love to see a deluxe ed of that record with the demos and DVD of the Chicago show they filmed. THIS is pretty cool. Where'd you hear those lyrics were by PW? It's believable. They sound more like his than Johnny's, and recall Stain Yer Blood a bit. |
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Post by phlipm34 on Feb 10, 2018 17:05:03 GMT -5
If you liked Superstar Car Wash (or "warsh", as they say in these parts), you'll dig this. Just found it a couple weeks ago. Live in-store Buffalo perfromance from '93. youtu.be/lg3XkNQPktU |
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Post by robinn on Feb 12, 2018 6:22:48 GMT -5
Wow, what a rabbit hole that just sent me down. Those demos are great. I would love to see a deluxe ed of that record with the demos and DVD of the Chicago show they filmed. THIS is pretty cool. Where'd you hear those lyrics were by PW? It's believable. They sound more like his than Johnny's, and recall Stain Yer Blood a bit. Don't know where I first heard it, but googled a bit and found this on absolutegoo.com/forum/goo-goo-dolls-news-info/music-illuminati-com-interview-with-robby-takac/:So Johnny just sent a bunch of demos that we did to Paul, and said, “You wanna help us out and write some lyrics for these?” He put them in his 4-track and sent two of them back with lyrics. One of them was the song called “(Dancing) In Your Blood”, which we didn’t actually use his lyrics for, but I hear that there’s a version of it floating around on YouTube. It’s pretty cool. The other one was “We Are the Normal”, which he wrote the lyrics for. We ended up recording that one. |
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Post by thematsarealive on Feb 14, 2018 18:20:37 GMT -5
"Dancing in your blood" sounds a lot like "Stain Yer Blood", purely in title... good for what would come a few years later, the latter is by far one of my favorite Eventually-era tracks.
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Post by Jer on Feb 20, 2018 20:27:19 GMT -5
"Dancing in your blood" sounds a lot like "Stain Yer Blood", purely in title... good for what would come a few years later, the latter is by far one of my favorite Eventually-era tracks. The two lines of the chorus of the GGD song have a very similar, borderline same, melody and cadence to the "stained and not for fun, I won't stain your blood" lines in Stain Yer Blood. The song was re-purposed in many ways for So Far Away which closed Superstar Car Wash, but the chorus is different. |
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Post by John in Buffalo on Mar 12, 2018 21:55:19 GMT -5
I want to thank the person that posted the link to the video of the Goos at New World Records. I was at this show. The Goo Goo Dolls were my favorite Buffalo band for a few years there in the Jed/Hold Me Up/Superstar Car Wash years. I saw them at least a couple of dozen times, they would do about one show a month when they were at home. They were a great live band, and when George Tutuska, the drummer, was booted it was front page news, and it wasn't until Lance Diamond's funeral show at Kleinhans Music Hall a few years ago that I saw them perform again after that. I was at George's last local show with them which was at a bar Jim Kelly (of the Bills) had downtown for a few years, right before "A Boy Named Goo" came out and it was obvious that they were adjusting their sound to work for a broader audience.
Robby and John had goals that went beyond the music and now that I've grown up and made my own choices too I get it enough for whatever level of anger and disappointment I had to have worn off. I met all three of them at one time or two times or more, it was impossible to live in Buffalo and be part of the music community and not to have. Robby is well-known in town as a great guy and he is, very friendly and easy to talk to. George was quiet but open to talking. John had a mixed reputation but in the times I spoke with him he was friendly and funny.
During the touring for Hold Me Up the Goos did open for the Mats in a few shows, not in Buffalo. That was when John met Paul. "We are the Normal" was the first single from Superstar Car Wash, and as reported here it came out of a few songs that were looking for lyrics that John sent to PW.
The Goos were fun and clever and played with energy and enthusiasm. They closed pretty much every show with my favorite song of theirs "There You Are". This video reminds me why I liked them so much. After the show Johnny went into the back and then when he came out he started handing out little rubber doll parts to whoever was standing around. I got a little doll head. Then they signed posters and CD's and whatever, I got my younger brother on Long Island a signed CD and told them that they were his favorite band. "Your brother's crazy" John told me.
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Post by Jer on Mar 13, 2018 12:14:34 GMT -5
I want to thank the person that posted the link to the video of the Goos at New World Records. I was at this show. The Goo Goo Dolls were my favorite Buffalo band for a few years there in the Jed/Hold Me Up/Superstar Car Wash years. I saw them at least a couple of dozen times, they would do about one show a month when they were at home. They were a great live band..... Yeah I agree, it was a great video (sound quality aside), and a great time for that band. They take a lot of lumps, and some deservedly so, but for those three records (I'd say HMU, SSCW & BNG) they were one of the best bands carrying the torch that The Replacements left when they quit in 91. Johnny has a great rock and roll voice and was writing great powerpop hooks at that time. |
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