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Post by thepogo on Jan 18, 2016 23:23:20 GMT -5
Have any of you in the "Know" heard if any video will ever come out from their tour?
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Post by johnnythunders on Jan 28, 2016 6:14:03 GMT -5
"There exists professionally recorded footage of the Replacements September 2014 appearance before 15,000 rabid hometown fans at the Midway Stadium in Minneapolis which would according to Darren make a cool DVD. " Darren being Mats co-manager, this quote taken from my interview with PW last summer , full piece available at www.onlyrockandroll.london. Darren made it sound like PW was not keen to put anything out but who knows.... |
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Post by Freddy on Feb 24, 2016 18:41:42 GMT -5
"There exists professionally recorded footage of the Replacements September 2014 appearance before 15,000 rabid hometown fans at the Midway Stadium in Minneapolis which would according to Darren make a cool DVD. " Darren being Mats co-manager, this quote taken from my interview with PW last summer , full piece available at www.onlyrockandroll.london. Darren made it sound like PW was not keen to put anything out but who knows.... That's one thing that has always irked me about Paul. It's almost as if he feels like he is doing something wrong (my perception) if he puts the band out there in ways that will benefit him and the others financially. I really hope he doesn't see doing those things as some sort of sell out. There is absolutely nothing wrong with giving to the fans and making some loot. He isn't going to tarnish the band by putting out a DVD of a performance. I realize he wants to be more than just the main creative catalyst in The Replacements, but hell, it's who he was.....it's who he is. I wish he wouldn't hide from it. There are new fans that have recently come on board, don't be afraid to make that a part of the legacy. All that said, I'm grateful that I got to see them a couple of times (Forecastle, Chicago Riot Fest). I'm happy with all I have gotten from them throughout my life, but like anyone else, I'm always ready for more!  Freddy |
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Post by Jer on Feb 25, 2016 9:26:03 GMT -5
That's one thing that has always irked me about Paul. It's almost as if he feels like he is doing something wrong (my perception) if he puts the band out there in ways that will benefit him and the others financially. I really hope he doesn't see doing those things as some sort of sell out. There is absolutely nothing wrong with giving to the fans and making some loot. He isn't going to tarnish the band by putting out a DVD of a performance. I realize he wants to be more than just the main creative catalyst in The Replacements, but hell, it's who he was.....it's who he is. I wish he wouldn't hide from it. There are new fans that have recently come on board, don't be afraid to make that a part of the legacy. I'd love to see it released and would jump on it for sure, and on a related note, the books have been great, and the website, and the merch, and all that, but part of me still misses the wonderment from the mid-80s when we had so little to go by. They were shrouded in mystery and, even though we didn't realize it at the time - it really added to what made them special. Other than the record sleeves and the odd fanzine, and the rare mention in Rolling Stone, we barely knew what these guys looked like, how they acted or what they were up to. Especially in small-town upper-midwest USA where we had to drive 7 hours to see them once every couple years. Even then, there were no t-shirts for sale. They weren't on IRS' The Cutting Edge, they weren't on TV before (or until 3 years after) SNL, and they had no videos. It really made us want to go see them and to learn more about them. Now days, you can interact with your favorite bands through social media, there's photos, videos and recordings online from every show that happens everywhere, and everything's on the table. There's no mystery. In a way, that's an amazing, cool thing that forges an exciting connection between the artist and the fan, but at the same time, there's something kind of nice about a guy like Paul, keeping to himself, not wanting his art plastered all over the world. It makes it more special for the people who were there. Whether or not it would tarnish the band, I would leave that to him to decide (we've been back and forth over that on here), but cheers to him for trying to preserve at least some of that mystery that made them so special in the first place. But yeah, I'd buy it right away. |
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Post by jess on Feb 25, 2016 21:44:47 GMT -5
I'm thinking the absence of a DVD has more to do with the fact that Paul might not be happy with how it turned out (for whatever reasons) than not wanting to look like he's trying to capitalize on anything. Let's be real, Paul has probably trashed so much gold over the years it would make most of our hearts & heads explode if we knew what he's been hiding from us all these years.
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Post by anarkissed on Feb 25, 2016 23:18:45 GMT -5
I'll buy the idea that it was kinda cool back when they were an active, underground, alternative band in the early-to-mid 80's to maintain an air of mystery...But now? Who's he trying to hide it from? My grandkids?
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Post by Jer on Feb 26, 2016 10:26:05 GMT -5
I'll buy the idea that it was kinda cool back when they were an active, underground, alternative band in the early-to-mid 80's to maintain an air of mystery...But now? Who's he trying to hide it from? My grandkids? Well, yeah - future generations, but even current fans. Of course it's just conjecture on my part, but he's probably still hanging onto the idea that things are more interesting (or compelling) when every little aspect of their existence isn't an easy click away. I don't think it's all that strange of a concept that some art has a bigger impact when it takes a little more effort to engage in. Maybe he feels like - if you want to know what it's like to see The Replacements play live, then you need to go to the show, not download it for $10 and watch it on your phone. That mystery was a big part of what made them so cool back then, and it's not something he's quick to just throw away. We talk a lot on here about legacy, and what it means, and what tarnishes it and what doesn't. We all have different opinions about that. Clearly Paul has his own opinions about it too - and he tries his best to avoid betraying it. I'd love to see it - and I think it will see daylight someday, but I totally get why he's not super excited about putting it out and the longer it takes the cooler it will be. I would love to see a DVD box set with the best stuff on it - the Midway show, the 87 First Ave show that was supposedly videotaped for PBS but never used, the 91 Chicago show, the TV appearances, etc. At this point, something like that is almost the last missing piece. |
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Post by FreeRider on Feb 26, 2016 10:50:29 GMT -5
That's a very valid point...I thought I read somewhere that Paul hated the internet in part because there was no more surprises anymore about the shows. I think this was on the solo tour. He said he'd do something one night and then find out everybody knew about it already and that it forced him to change stuff up in his shows, to keep it entertaining and fresh.
So that does go back to the mystique thing and a sense of not knowing what you're going to get. If you know he's going to play, "If Only You were Lonely", let's say, as the encore, it sort of ruins the surprise for you if you heard about it on the internet what the play list was.
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Post by twicks1 on Feb 26, 2016 11:22:49 GMT -5
We've been absolutely spoiled with Paul/Mats content lately...between last year's tour, the I Don't Cares record and the Trouble Boys book, I'd guess Paul just figures there's more than enough "in the marketplace" right now.
Save the DVD for a lean year...
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Post by thepogo on Feb 26, 2016 15:09:36 GMT -5
Jer I completely agree with you. When you went to see a show pre social media, the show was pretty much it. That show would leave memories for sometimes years. The excitement, the anticipation was incredible. AND I think the coming down from the high after the shows was what made the pre-social media shows extremely important to those of us who experienced that.
I remember during the years of "nothing" every time I would look at a music mag, the very first thing I would look for would be any info on the Mats or PW. I had to make an effort to seek Mats info out. As much as I do like how we can keep up with the band & PW via pics, videos., I really do miss everything that came with the mystery of the band. I live in Texas and they were not around much, so when they were it was full steam ahead to the shows.
My band will cover a couple Mats songs and one of the guys in my band had not heard of them. Its funny that all he has to do is hit a couple of clicks and there it all is for him to read about, and see. Its almost not fair, and I mean not fair to him......
As far as the original question I put out here. I was just curious if anyone had heard if and or when the videos may come out.
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Post by anarkissed on Feb 26, 2016 23:01:09 GMT -5
Yeah, well, but the thing is, the genie is outta the bottle, the eggshell has been broken, the internet and social media do exist...If he doesn't like it or doesn't want to participate, hey, that's his call...But it doesn't change things...He can't go back to a world where people aren't posting cell-phone videos of the reunion shows the next day on YouTube, or to where you only heard of them because one time there was a little blurb about them in CREEM magazine...He can be that guy yelling at kids to get off his lawn, or wondering how come he can't find a service station to perform maintenance on his steam-powered automobile, but it's probably not really gonna affect the world at large...This is really weird...How come I've been positioned as the voice of getting with the times when I don't even have cable?
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Post by Freddy on Feb 27, 2016 12:05:24 GMT -5
Yeah, well, but the thing is, the genie is outta the bottle, the eggshell has been broken, the internet and social media do exist...If he doesn't like it or doesn't want to participate, hey, that's his call...But it doesn't change things...He can't go back to a world where people aren't posting cell-phone videos of the reunion shows the next day on YouTube, or to where you only heard of them because one time there was a little blurb about them in CREEM magazine...He can be that guy yelling at kids to get off his lawn, or wondering how come he can't find a service station to perform maintenance on his steam-powered automobile, but it's probably not really gonna affect the world at large...This is really weird...How come I've been positioned as the voice of getting with the times when I don't even have cable? I see both sides of this. Yeah, the mystique thing was cool. In the 70's Pink Floyd and Steely Dan were bands that a lot of people couldn't get their heads around, because they were so "cloak and dagger" with what information was available about them. The mystery was definitely a fun part of fandom at that time. That's also directly related to time though. No band that reaches any sort of popularity these days is going to be able to hide very well. There are just too many mechanisms in place that make them accessible whether a band would want it or not. If we (the fans) had more access to them ('Mats) during their "hey day" we would have soaked that up too. And would have still wanted more. The "genie is out of the bottle" take is spot on. We are where we are and the latest incarnation of the band wasn't 1982 or '83 or even '89. People know about them, even many passive fans. You can find quite a bit on YouTube, streaming services and other outlets. I do miss the mystique too, so don't get me wrong. I loved the days of trading tapes with C9, Trace and many others,buying a magazine just to read a paragraph about them, watching 120 Minutes in hopes of catching a video, but that's a bygone era and with the band seemingly done (and if not, like anything else, there will come a day when it is and it's closer now than ever) it just seems like a natural time to put a few things out there to further celebrate what these guys were (are?) and what they have meant (mean?) to so many. It's theirs....it's Paul's. So, if they choose to do nothing with concert footage, I'm happy with what they have given me, but just like anyone else, I'll take more. I'm still as fascinated by them as ever, perhaps for different reasons now than 25 years ago, but they are still relevant and embedded in my psyche. A part of my life. I would just like to have a quality, high def concert video. Is that too much to ask gawdammit!  Freddy |
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Post by anarkissed on Feb 27, 2016 16:23:14 GMT -5
I see both sides, too...I remember spending a long time searching for a 45 of Led Zeppelin's "Immigrant Song" just because it had a non-album B-side that I had never heard before ("Hey, Hey, What Can I Do")...I never did find it, and I'm not sure it would have even been possible to order it...Television was a whole different thing, too..."It's A wonderful Life" aired on NBC every Thanksgiving evening (and just once, in prime time, not an around-the-clock repeat marathon)...ABC showed "The Ten Commandments" on Easter Sunday...The Charlie Brown Halloween and Christmas specials were annual events...Movies played for a few months at the theatre, or maybe just weeks, and something you really loved maybe you went to see two or three times...Then it was gone, until maybe it made it (edited) to television, which often took years. Now, I can pretty much watch every film or every episode of every television series ever made whenever I feel like it...Though I have fond memories of those days, if its a choice between having three networks and a chain of theatres determine what I can watch and when I can watch it, or being able to have virtually immediate access to this vast library where I control what, when, and where, I'd have to say I prefer the latter...
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