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Post by wiser's deluxe on Mar 21, 2014 3:18:54 GMT -5
I guess paul wants to wear his Montreal Canadians jersey again. Mats to play USHEAGA AUGUST 1-3 more than likely he'll wear a Leafs jersey. or Senators. anything but the Habs in Montreal. oh, and for those going, try the poutine and ruebens. can't be beat.
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Post by monkeytot on Mar 21, 2014 9:46:25 GMT -5
Fuck Habs! Detroit Fucking Red Wings!!!!
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Post by FreeRider on Mar 21, 2014 12:55:49 GMT -5
I'd love to wear my Caps sweater in Montreal---oh, wait, the Caps got Halak'ed in the playoffs against the Habs in 2010 to flame out in the first round. Maybe not!
Would love to get to Montreal, but poutine? Man, that's an insulin spike/diabetic coma on a plate. Covered with lots of gravy, of course.
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Post by aprilfool on Mar 29, 2014 2:08:18 GMT -5
I'm a damn lucky Montrealer!!! When they announced the Osheaga lineup I couldn't believe it! I still don't understand how the heck that happened. I've been to Osheaga twice, I'm not a fan of big outdoor festivals but Osheaga was a lot of fun both times. The place is really nice, it's on a little island right outside the city (there's a subway station), a big park with no cars, 2 main stages in 1 spot plus a few smaller ones scattered around.
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Post by monkeytot on Apr 12, 2014 5:32:14 GMT -5
Any1 know when singe day tix go o0n sale, or le sale as they say up there. Does Paul have to sing in both English and French?
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Post by lildroogie on Aug 3, 2014 21:56:47 GMT -5
Just back from the Montreal Osheaga show... Happy to say that the band was great... sad to say the crowd was hands down the worst ever... What seems to have happened is that a church youth group waiting to see the Arctic Monkeys set up camp in the first 100 rows of people and only wanted to wait for their band, didn't want to see any other bands, and certainly didn't want any mats fans to enjoy the set... Best I can tell there were three of us who made our way anywhere near the front and our interest in getting into the show was not appreciated by those around us. some how this made for a more memorable show though.
I don't know anything about the Arctic monkeys, but their fans thoroughly suck.
If only they would play metropolis.
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Post by matsrule on Aug 3, 2014 22:35:00 GMT -5
Sad
Wish they would have done a club tour
Could the money have been that much?
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Post by jess on Aug 4, 2014 1:04:44 GMT -5
Just back from the Montreal Osheaga show... Happy to say that the band was great... sad to say the crowd was hands down the worst ever... What seems to have happened is that a church youth group waiting to see the Arctic Monkeys set up camp in the first 100 rows of people and only wanted to wait for their band, didn't want to see any other bands, and certainly didn't want any mats fans to enjoy the set... Best I can tell there were three of us who made our way anywhere near the front and our interest in getting into the show was not appreciated by those around us. some how this made for a more memorable show though. I don't know anything about the Arctic monkeys, but their fans thoroughly suck. If only they would play metropolis. Wow... that's terrible. I'm sad to hear that this shit went down. I'm with you... I don't know much about the Arctic Monkeys. I know people were going nuts that they were doing shows again but, man, that's really fucked up.
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Post by hootenanny58 on Aug 5, 2014 18:26:13 GMT -5
I live in Montreal. It would have been no bother from a transportation standpoint. I coulda walked there.
But the Arctic Monkeys thing was precisely what I feared, becoming a hundred dollar groom - for all of an hour.
All good to Paul and Tommy for cashing in whatever which way - to make up for the 10 years playing for cover charges and really next to nothing. Can't blame them for doing things the way they're doing it. All trail blazers deserve a big payoff.
But nope, I'll stick to my first instincts about these things every time: my relationship with the Mats was consummated in stinky sweaty hell holes and unfortunately, I'm afraid the legend would be wrecked by the great outdoors and being subjected to a load of 32-nd-hand monkey jive.
It'll never be that way again - and so I accepted long ago. Better to stay home watching fuzzy faint Johnny Thunders clips and Joe Strummer interviews. For the record, I fell to drinking heavily when Tommy Ramone passed. End of an era COL. It stops there. Let it be.
"... Sheeee spent all my cash and I broke out in a rash ..."
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Post by loudmouth on Aug 5, 2014 22:57:40 GMT -5
I don't see your logic. You could have walked to see the Replacements, but you didn't ? I seriously considered flying from Colorado, but couldn't afford it. Are you that afraid of the arctic monkeys? Jesus!
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Post by hootenanny58 on Aug 6, 2014 0:18:11 GMT -5
Okay. Lemme splain it this way: Tickets for the one day (Sunday) were $100, fees and all. (I even tried fitting in a reference to one of Paul's jokiest songs, but oh well.) I did not "fear" the Arctic Monkeys. I don't know them, never will, don't care. What I was "afraid" of - just to be clear - was going to see the remnants of my favourite band of all time being relegated to second fiddle for all of an hour.
That was the case when they opened for Petty in 89 (a complete disaster) then Costello about a year later (never thought I'd ever see the guys mail it in like they did that evening). Petty and Costello fans treated them like crap, me driving home after both occasions severely disappointed. So the Mats as non-headliner never worked out as well as when they could do what they wanted for as long as they felt like it. (I understand why they're doing what they're doing and if it's good for Paul and Tommy financially, that's all I care about right now. I've never missed a solo release from any of them; once flew to London to see Paul on his only 2004 date at Scala, still have the t-shirt. As for being entertained, there were moments on the few times I did see the Mats as headliners that pretty much set them up as legends in my mind for life.
(FWIW, the last band I was afraid of was the New York Dolls, but that was a long long time ago when album covers featuring cross-dressers had to be carried around in a brown paper bag by skinny little kids. I bought it anyway just to spite the local hillbillies and then wore it out.)
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Post by Jer on Aug 6, 2014 7:56:42 GMT -5
Seems like we've been discussing this since the first Riot Fest shows last year...
I respect where Hootenanny58 is coming from. It's a lot to ask of a long-time, hardcore fan from way back who was lucky enough to see the band rise (and stumble) back in the day. Watching them play in sheds before Petty (Clarkston 89) and Costello (Philly 91) was indeed a bit of a tough pill. I didn't feel like they mailed it in either of those shows, but I've seen/heard other shows from those tours where I did. Still, though, it was 45 minutes, it was light out, you couldn't get within 30 yards of them, and Christ, you'd just seen them a club a couple months prior.
So yeah, pay $100+ to get in the gates, deal with tens of thousands of mega-fans of bands you don't care about, to see the `mats play for an hour on a giant stage when the suns not even down. It's just not for everyone. I haven't been able to make any of the reunion shows, but I haven't tried that hard. I hope to, but I'm not losing sleep over it. Cheers to the band for having a great time and cashing in (and especially for sounding awesome), and cheers to the fans who are going to and loving the shows, but cheers too, to those of us who would rather wait for a better setting, even with the knowledge that it very well might never happen.
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Post by martinpecial on Aug 6, 2014 11:15:37 GMT -5
My wife and I went to the Atlanta and Louisville festivals, tolerating the pain in our feet and backs of standing for hours, and are both glad we did. I'm the Replacements fan. My wife has semi-become one. For what it's worth, we saw them as headliners in Philly in '91 and as openers for Elvis Costello. They are far better this year. You can sense the appreciation they have to be able to play 20-plus years later and in the fans who've waited so long to see them. Westerberg is in good spirits and has an obvious chemistry with everyone in the band, not just Tommy. They also sound great. They don't play like a nostalgia act. Herman's Hermits, they ain't. Certain things in life you can't put a price tag on. Seeing the Replacements live is one of them. Just my two cents.
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Post by hootenanny58 on Aug 6, 2014 11:33:14 GMT -5
Philly 91 - Mann Music Center! ... I had a crap ticket, snuck down to the orchestra pit for the Mats set, but got chased out by a zealous security gorilla and a trio of insufferable Costello snobs. A bummer. 89 was at Pitt (can't remember the name of the hall). Tommy was so bored that he played part of the set reclining on a chair propped up behind the PA, stage left. Petty fans were mullet-headed morons (I wish to think "I Hate Music" was written for them). Slim told me that at that show, he was so bummed that he socked a rude reporter backstage, leading to a churlish dig in the press the next day. I'd seen them twice prior (once at the old Syria Mosque) as headliners, had all the records and bootlegs I could find, so was stoked for any chance to see them. It was matter of getting so revved up, I would've been happier with a classic Replacements trainwreck show ... I still love them all the same.
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Post by thematsarealive on Aug 6, 2014 15:25:24 GMT -5
They don't play like a nostalgia act.. I agree completely. They have played like they had something to prove the 2 times I've seen them and let it all hang out onstage. They may be cashing in, but these performances obviously mean a lot to everyone involved and you could cut the chemistry onstage with a knife. The show in Atlanta was probably the best concert I've ever seen. Luckily, the other members of the audience were also amazing and totally into the performance.
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Post by lildroogie on Aug 6, 2014 17:48:45 GMT -5
I think if I'd been in Hootenanny58's position of having seen them in their prime, I might have avoided this altogether as well. But this was my very first opportunity to see the mats (well, I should have gone last year to riot fest, but it would have been too expensive). Despite the shittyness of the crowd (I can't say enough of how low an opinion I have of the arctic monkeys based only on their fans), I feel very fortunate to have seen them live in any incarnation. when I first got into them I assumed I'd never have the opportunity, so now I'll take what I can get.
anyway, despite the shittyness of the crowd, it might have made the experience more memorable for me.... towards the front there was nothing but a sea of lame arctic monkey fans (who, again, very possibly may have arrived altogether as part of a church youth group) and they were hostile to people getting into the mats... as the show drew on, the three of us who were actually there to see the mats were slowly pushed together seemingly by fate (it was actually some crowdsurfers) and we formed our own rabid little audience for the band. That part of the experience was fun and felt very punk rock for some reason. It was a strange and fun feeling to me, being considerably older than almost everyone there and feeling like I'm 'showing them something' about 'what punk rock is about'.... I'm just now realizing how long it's been since I've had that rebellious feeling and this time it's going in the reverse age direction... I, therefore, am also now realizing that none of them were actually impressed by my little lesson one punk rock...but.
anyway, despite being happy to have this experience, I don't need to re-experience it and probably won't go again unless there is good reason to believe that I will be seeing them amongst people that want to see them play, preferably at Metropolis.
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Post by Jer on Aug 7, 2014 9:13:59 GMT -5
I think if I'd been in Hootenanny58's position of having seen them in their prime, I might have avoided this altogether as well. But this was my very first opportunity to see the mats... I certainly don't begrudge anyone for checking these shows out, whether you've seen `em before or not. I agree that (from what I've heard) they're killing it and having fun. I will catch them if I can, but it hasn't worked out yet. I actually like a lot of the Arctic Monkeys stuff. They (along with Miles Kane) seem to be carrying the torch that went out when The Jam broke up of guitar driven brit-rock. I've never seen them live, and have no idea about the culture of their fan base, but be patient with those kids. They're into a band that formed over 10 years after the `mats called it quits, and their band is still actively releasing music and touring, so you can't really blame them for not giving a shit about some old dudes from the 80s that are reuniting for a handful festivals.
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Post by skunky on Aug 7, 2014 10:04:26 GMT -5
I think if I'd been in Hootenanny58's position of having seen them in their prime, I might have avoided this altogether as well. But this was my very first opportunity to see the mats (well, I should have gone last year to riot fest, but it would have been too expensive). Despite the shittyness of the crowd (I can't say enough of how low an opinion I have of the arctic monkeys based only on their fans), I feel very fortunate to have seen them live in any incarnation. when I first got into them I assumed I'd never have the opportunity, so now I'll take what I can get. anyway, despite the shittyness of the crowd, it might have made the experience more memorable for me.... towards the front there was nothing but a sea of lame arctic monkey fans (who, again, very possibly may have arrived altogether as part of a church youth group) and they were hostile to people getting into the mats... as the show drew on, the three of us who were actually there to see the mats were slowly pushed together seemingly by fate (it was actually some crowdsurfers) and we formed our own rabid little audience for the band. That part of the experience was fun and felt very punk rock for some reason. It was a strange and fun feeling to me, being considerably older than almost everyone there and feeling like I'm 'showing them something' about 'what punk rock is about'.... I'm just now realizing how long it's been since I've had that rebellious feeling and this time it's going in the reverse age direction... I, therefore, am also now realizing that none of them were actually impressed by my little lesson one punk rock...but. anyway, despite being happy to have this experience, I don't need to re-experience it and probably won't go again unless there is good reason to believe that I will be seeing them amongst people that want to see them play, preferably at Metropolis.
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Post by skunky on Aug 7, 2014 10:05:11 GMT -5
I think if I'd been in Hootenanny58's position of having seen them in their prime, I might have avoided this altogether as well. But this was my very first opportunity to see the mats (well, I should have gone last year to riot fest, but it would have been too expensive). Despite the shittyness of the crowd (I can't say enough of how low an opinion I have of the arctic monkeys based only on their fans), I feel very fortunate to have seen them live in any incarnation. when I first got into them I assumed I'd never have the opportunity, so now I'll take what I can get. anyway, despite the shittyness of the crowd, it might have made the experience more memorable for me.... towards the front there was nothing but a sea of lame arctic monkey fans (who, again, very possibly may have arrived altogether as part of a church youth group) and they were hostile to people getting into the mats... as the show drew on, the three of us who were actually there to see the mats were slowly pushed together seemingly by fate (it was actually some crowdsurfers) and we formed our own rabid little audience for the band. That part of the experience was fun and felt very punk rock for some reason. It was a strange and fun feeling to me, being considerably older than almost everyone there and feeling like I'm 'showing them something' about 'what punk rock is about'.... I'm just now realizing how long it's been since I've had that rebellious feeling and this time it's going in the reverse age direction... I, therefore, am also now realizing that none of them were actually impressed by my little lesson one punk rock...but. anyway, despite being happy to have this experience, I don't need to re-experience it and probably won't go again unless there is good reason to believe that I will be seeing them amongst people that want to see them play, preferably at Metropolis.
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Post by skunky on Aug 7, 2014 10:06:23 GMT -5
Yeah saw them at a club in 91'.. My brother and I agreed that Atlanta 2014 was the BEST concert we've ever seen by anybody
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