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Post by landshark on Apr 4, 2012 8:11:10 GMT -5
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Post by anarkissed on Apr 4, 2012 8:41:04 GMT -5
The use of a teleprompter originally bothered me...I think the first time I was aware of it was reading that Ozzy was using one at some kind of Black Sabbath "reunion"...I sorta gave him a pass because: 1)he's pretty old 2)he hadn't done these songs in years, and 3)I would imagine there's some level of memory loss going on there...Then I read that Dylan was using one...Kinda gave him a pass, too, because: 1)he's really old, and 2)most of his songs have, like, 115 verses...My only objection might be that the teleprompter might kill some of the "feeling" that would otherwise occur; this is tempered somewhat by the idea that not remembering the lyrics at all would surely kill the "feeling"...Having the occasion to sing live from memory in front of people a few times in my youth, I can testify that few things feel as awkward as momentarily forgetting the words...This sometimes led to unintentional, albeit humorous, improvisation on my part, that, hopefully, no one noticed...Not so bad to flub a cover, but flubbing words that you wrote, that's kinda bad... Funny, though, I can't remember anyone ever complaining that a classical orchestra and conductor are using sheet music; surely they should know their parts by now...
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Post by FreeRider on Apr 4, 2012 8:57:01 GMT -5
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Post by FreeRider on Apr 4, 2012 9:02:23 GMT -5
I kind of want a cure for boredom, so I ain't worried about a remedy for shambolism....even news that PW is ready to do something can help with this temporary lull....
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Post by Jer on Apr 4, 2012 9:36:11 GMT -5
Last time Bruce played Detroit he thanked "Ohio" twice before Little Steven subtlety told him he was in Michigan. I was there. Bruce felt so bad. He walked up to the mic and said "Every front man's worst fu*king nightmare. We'll make it up to you Detroit." and they played another 2 hours. I would have found the mistake unforgivable in other circumstances - like if it wasn't Bruce, if it wasn't at the very tail end of a zillion-date tour, or if I was younger and less forgiving in general. But it just didn't bother me much.
Nils makes some great points, but I bet it goes even beyond that. Like Ozzy and Dylan, Bruce is getting older. Unlike Ozzy, they play super long sets with a different setlist every night on super long tours
I don't think anyone can fault Bruce for not giving his all every night. People pay a lot to see them and they just wanna get it right. The same people who are bitching would be livid if he got a couple verses in Badlands juxtaposed. Bitch about bands that lip-sync and dance more than they sing, leave the real guys alone.
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Post by GtrPlyr on Apr 4, 2012 10:01:37 GMT -5
Last time Bruce played Detroit he thanked "Ohio" twice before Little Steven subtlety told him he was in Michigan. I've seen that sorta thing happen before, awkward  . Let's face it, that's not even an age thing either. I've read so many stories of touring bands where after a few weeks/months on the road they lose all sense of where they actually are. All the hotel, soundcheck, show, and repeat day-in-day-out can make anyone lose touch with their surroundings. |
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Post by gah on Apr 4, 2012 12:21:17 GMT -5
Bernard Sumner of New Order uses one, too.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 4, 2012 16:49:38 GMT -5
Lou Reed has been using one for ages. It can be really distracting sometimes, because at certain shows he never seems to take his eyes off it.
I've seen John Doe use printed out lyric sheets too, on the floor or on a music stand. Ryan Adams use to do this during his first solo appearances too.
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Post by thepogo on Apr 4, 2012 18:14:36 GMT -5
Ive' Lucinda Williams with a binder. It was funny cuz it was at ACL and it was windy. Her pages kept blowing around. She went into a tirade, cussing like a sailor.
It was hillarious.
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Post by anarkissed on Apr 4, 2012 18:21:27 GMT -5
I remember R.E.M usually having a stand and binder onstage as well, but don't remember Stipe ever referring to it...Once, though, they began an impromptu cover (once again, can't remember what it was) with Mills attempting the lead vocals...Stipe frantically paged through the binder, then brought the stand over to Mills...Maybe it was the wrong page; he still didn't seem to really know the words...
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Post by Placemat on Apr 5, 2012 21:31:33 GMT -5
I don't have any problem with it. I mean if it was a young band, couple of records, I'd think poser but still...
After you write that many songs, fuck it, your own shit is the first to go. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Paul could use it. If it's right for him is another question.
& I'm with GtrPlyr. I never fault a touring band, on the road, fucked up, playing gigs night after night, not knowing where the hell they are. Foot in mouth, but hey, least they made it.
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Post by kdennis57 on Apr 12, 2012 18:46:03 GMT -5
I recently saw Cracker playing as an acoustic duo, with David Lowrey refering to a laptop. He said it did not contain lyrics, but a schedule to remind him to take his medications.
On the other hand, last night I saw a five-piece ballroom dancing band playing music for a silent film program - with their sheet music on iPads.
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Post by brianlux on Apr 13, 2012 17:48:14 GMT -5
I can understand the concern to a point. A younger artist should know their stuff. Neil Young once commented that he didn't like teleprompter and when forced to use one would intentionally change his own lyrics (gotta love Neil!).
But that said, I'm two years younger than Springsteen and I have trouble remembering things now and then and sometimes I screw up some some of the songs I've played many times before. I'm just glad The Boss is still out there doing it.
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