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Post by discostu on Sept 20, 2011 7:02:33 GMT -5
The new album from long time 'Mats freaks Deer Tick, Divine Providence, concludes with a "hidden track" - a cover of Grandpaboy's "Mr. Cigarette" (from "Grandpaboy's Last Stand"). Gotta be the most obscure Westy cover ever.
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Post by bobstinsonsghost on Sept 20, 2011 16:58:21 GMT -5
obscure but good.
these guys play in pawtucket,r.i. quite a bit.i'll have to check them out sometime.
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Post by wecantgetanybetter on Sept 20, 2011 21:00:09 GMT -5
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Post by ClamsCasino on Sept 21, 2011 9:15:34 GMT -5
Paul is a Deer Tick fan? Color me skeptical about that headline. And out of all the songs he's written, why would he want anyone to cover a song he probably doesn't get any royalties for?
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Post by hudson99 on Sept 21, 2011 9:49:26 GMT -5
Paul is a Deer Tick fan? Color me skeptical about that headline. And out of all the songs he's written, why would he want anyone to cover a song he probably doesn't get any royalties for? Royalties are still owed even if it is unlisted on the album...and Paul still does own the copyright even though the only version he's released has been part of "Grandpaboy's Last Stand". |
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Post by ih8music on Sept 21, 2011 12:33:57 GMT -5
McCauley is most definitely a huge Westerberg fan. He covered "Portland" for the Middle Brother album & has done a bunch of other mats covers in his shows. (waitress in the sky: www.nyctaper.com/?p=6882)My hunch is that Deer Tick reached out to Paul about Mr. Cigarette and he said yes... not quite that he "wrote it for Deer Tick" as much as he wrote it and let them record their version of it. |
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Post by bobstinsonsghost on Sept 21, 2011 13:41:44 GMT -5
i emailed their manager and asked him about it.
i'll post his response if i get one.
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Post by bobstinsonsghost on Sept 21, 2011 15:06:49 GMT -5
heres what their manager told me:
'ha.good question.i think that will always remain a bit of a mystery.the song was given to john mcCauley by pauls manager,john was told that paul wrote it for him,however the truth to that statement will likely always remain nebulous'
next time i go to darren hills shop i'll have to ask him about it if hes around!
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Post by ih8music on Sept 21, 2011 15:21:50 GMT -5
heh. how cool would that be if one of your idols wrote a song just for you? I'd be beyond giddy.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Sept 21, 2011 15:59:26 GMT -5
Paul is a Deer Tick fan? Color me skeptical about that headline. And out of all the songs he's written, why would he want anyone to cover a song he probably doesn't get any royalties for? Royalties are still owed even if it is unlisted on the album...and Paul still does own the copyright even though the only version he's released has been part of "Grandpaboy's Last Stand". No, nothing to do with the hidden track status. I was thinking that royalties might not be owed since Paul didn't actually write the music, just the lyrics. But I don't really know much about how the whole cover song royalties thing works, so I could be wrong. |
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Post by bobstinsonsghost on Sept 21, 2011 16:21:23 GMT -5
i think its pretty hazy as to who even wrote i've been working on the railroad...i don't know if theres even anyone or their families who would get royalties for the music.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Sept 21, 2011 16:33:06 GMT -5
Yeah, I figured it would be in public domain, which is why Paul wouldn't have had to pay any royalties on it himself.
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Post by hudson99 on Sept 21, 2011 16:49:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I figured it would be in public domain, which is why Paul wouldn't have had to pay any royalties on it himself. The work around on getting songwriting royalties on public domain tunes is "Trad. - Arranged by (insert artist here)". |
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Post by bombpop on Sept 22, 2011 18:05:49 GMT -5
I reached out to John/Deer Tick via facebook; we'll see if he can shed some light. Until then...
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Post by bombpop on Sept 22, 2011 18:59:52 GMT -5
this is what I got back:
"i've been told by his manager he wrote it 'with deer tick in mind'"
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Post by ClamsCasino on Sept 23, 2011 0:29:46 GMT -5
Aha! Paul caught red-handed listening to contemporary music! He probably hasn't owned up to listening to new music since the Mats split. It's somehow nice to know that he's still got his ear to the ground. In an REM tribute on Salon today Bob Mould wrote that great musicians are always great music fans.
I do find it kind of funny that this was the song he handed them though. It could be taken as a backhanded compliment. "Here, I wrote this just for you. It's...uh...um, I've Been Working on the Railroad. Ok, ok, so I didn't really write it, but it's got some new lyrics. If you don't like this, I've got another one that's...uh, well it's La Bamba, but...well, you get the idea."
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Post by HillBillyJunk on Oct 14, 2011 16:51:09 GMT -5
This totally caught me by surprise while listening. Thought I had turned the album off but sure enough 30 minutes later i start humming the song....
Sweet.
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Post by HillBillyJunk on Oct 25, 2011 15:23:28 GMT -5
the band "middle brother" which consists of members of dawes, deer tick and delta spirit also cover "Portland" on their record
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Post by wecantgetanybetter on Nov 6, 2011 6:57:03 GMT -5
MPLS folks ... Deer Tick plays the Triple Rock on I believe Nov. 12.
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Post by A Regular on Nov 9, 2011 9:16:53 GMT -5
Saw this band a cpl years ago and thought "shrug"....only curious how a new england band tried to sound southern.
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