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Post by raccoon on Feb 5, 2010 14:35:32 GMT -5
Does anybody have any info about the Mats song 'only if we must'?? I asked Paul about it very briefly a few years ago and he mumbled something like 'oh Oingo Boingo got ahold of it'. I am hazy - it may have been another band that he mentioned. I am pretty sure that Paul wrote this lovely tune so I am wondering if anybody else recorded it. Anybody know anything on this topic? I searched the web but did not find anything other than its appearance on outtakes that I already have. Who hijacked this song and why did the Mats never officially release it?? It is gorgeous...
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Post by cford on Feb 5, 2010 14:57:03 GMT -5
Does anybody have any info about the Mats song 'only if we must'?? I asked Paul about it very briefly a few years ago and he mumbled something like 'oh Oingo Boingo got ahold of it'. I am hazy - it may have been another band that he mentioned. I am pretty sure that Paul wrote this lovely tune so I am wondering if anybody else recorded it. Anybody know anything on this topic? I searched the web but did not find anything other than its appearance on outtakes that I already have. Who hijacked this song and why did the Mats never officially release it?? It is gorgeous... "Only if We Must" appears on what is probably a fairly rare set of outtakes for All Shook Down, so the band must not have liked it....If I remember right it has sort of a Latin rhythm...I don't think it has ever been revived for any Replacements retread..I'd be surprised of Westerberg even remembers it at all. CF |
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Post by raccoon on Feb 5, 2010 16:00:46 GMT -5
CF there is a 'video' of the song on youtube if you want to refresh the old memory. It is hard for me to dismiss this song lightly. Paul definately remembered it but seemed irked as if someone had either gotten rights to it and/or butchered it in another version.
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Post by willr on Feb 6, 2010 1:41:14 GMT -5
i was hoping this would have been released on the reissues.
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Post by jasonizzyj on Feb 6, 2010 1:59:02 GMT -5
It was a tragedy that 'Only if We Must' and 'Learn How to Fail' weren't included in the reissues. I wanted to tried and figure out the chords to 'Only if We Must' but the high pitched demo makes it kinda hard.
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Post by BronxTeacher on Feb 6, 2010 10:58:06 GMT -5
Yes, and another tragedy was not including "Shopping Bag" on Stereo or Besterberg: www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWYwCCl0J1g"A collection of mistakes is experience I've experienced you before" |
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Post by timtoast on Feb 6, 2010 16:05:33 GMT -5
I agree. Shopping Bag is a great, great song.
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Post by pz on Feb 6, 2010 16:18:35 GMT -5
just went to youtube and heard it for the 1st time. agreed. |
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Post by worldclassfad on Feb 7, 2010 14:11:20 GMT -5
This is a great song, never heard it before. I cant believe some of the songs they left off their albums, especially 'Nowhere Is My Home' and the original version of 'Cant Hardly Wait' on Tim.
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Post by cford on Feb 8, 2010 13:07:10 GMT -5
CF there is a 'video' of the song on youtube if you want to refresh the old memory. It is hard for me to dismiss this song lightly. Paul definately remembered it but seemed irked as if someone had either gotten rights to it and/or butchered it in another version. Thanks for the youtube tip.. I found it.. The song probably is better than I remembered it. I think it would have worked on All Shook Down. CF |
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Post by nazareth on Feb 10, 2010 0:35:29 GMT -5
Wow, I've been here for years and never heard of these tracks. Any place to get them?
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Post by willr on Feb 10, 2010 1:40:51 GMT -5
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Post by hudson99 on Feb 10, 2010 17:10:42 GMT -5
You put that together? Nice job! |
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Post by nazareth on Feb 10, 2010 19:09:29 GMT -5
I can't believe how good Only if we Must is. This is ASD's "Don't Get Married" Also, where the hell did this Grandpaboy demo come from? 'Mats demos leaking makes sense because there were so many people involved. Mono is just Paul. Anybody have this song to DL? Ps. Thanks Hastur  |
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Post by nazareth on Feb 10, 2010 19:25:37 GMT -5
You put that together? Nice job! I've never tracked it down, but the bootleg "Unintentionally" has tons of Paul solo demos. Including the hits "It's Hard to wave in handcuffs" and "Gas Station Attendant" |
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Post by wecantgetanybetter on Feb 10, 2010 22:01:14 GMT -5
IAlso, where the hell did this Grandpaboy demo come from? 'Mats demos leaking makes sense because there were so many people involved. Mono is just Paul. Anybody have this song to DL? Can help on both counts. DM me your email. |
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Post by willr on Feb 11, 2010 4:31:16 GMT -5
You put that together? Nice job! it was more of a trimming than putting together. the person that put the all the tracks together way back when did all the work. all i did was make it so the set could be posted on dime again. i also have the untentionally, and the stereo demos. if someone posts them to dime i can help seed it, or i can upload them cause they arent on the tracker anymore. |
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Post by scoOter on Feb 11, 2010 8:51:45 GMT -5
only if we must is fantastic. i have had it since, er, the napster days on a compilation i put together called "paid in beer".
i have never heard a remotely "clean" copy of shopping bag, which is a shame because it is great.
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Post by cford on Feb 11, 2010 10:44:42 GMT -5
I can't believe how good Only if we Must is. This is ASD's "Don't Get Married" Also, where the hell did this Grandpaboy demo come from? 'Mats demos leaking makes sense because there were so many people involved. Mono is just Paul. Anybody have this song to DL? Ps. Thanks Hastur Only If We Must is not a GrandpaBoy demo...It's All Shook Down - era Replacements..(of course, its Paul solo, though).. The demo in question also contains versions of Attitude, Happy Town, One Wink at a Time, etc from the record. CF |
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Post by worldclassfad on Feb 11, 2010 12:51:17 GMT -5
I think he's talking about Shopping Bag man  |
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