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Post by wecantgetanybetter on Aug 1, 2008 22:42:27 GMT -5
i LOVE the car-alarm guitar figure in "Be My Darling"
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Post by Strange and Grandiose on Aug 2, 2008 13:24:28 GMT -5
i LOVE the car-alarm guitar figure in "Be My Darling" It sounds like Bob on "16 Blue."
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Post by hootenanny58 on Aug 2, 2008 19:42:51 GMT -5
Speaking of sales or download numbers, I've never been shy about promoting Replacements (and their many solo spinoffs) to friends and acquaintances - and especially so if they've shown an interest in music beyond the usual top 40 pap. Serious music fans, if you will, tired of cliches and the least hint of slick biz. (The business seems to be about selling clothes, makeup, fashion accessories and just about anything else that can distract "fans" from some darn dreadful songwriting. Can you distinguish a tv commercial from a pop video anymore?)
Anyway, a few dozen people have been contacted in the process of stringing along some well extended e-mail threads; many for whom Paul would have seemed an intriguing musical personality but beyond their price/value interests.
So they took the plunge for 49 cents ... WTF ... So now they know and perhaps their friends know and so on. A few have gone fishing through Paul's back catalogue.
So there you have it: Word of mouth works, and especially so for those who mine the more obscure corners of the music world to find a bit of gold dust. For us, charted artists have become anathema.
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Post by Miss E. on Aug 3, 2008 23:24:03 GMT -5
something in my life is missing. sweet jesus. Been wondering why he wrote someTHING instead of someONE. Somewhere around here is a brief discussion on who he might be singing about (Tommy, his Dad, himself) but it must be a thing instead of a person. Friendship? dunno, but a couple of lines made me think of jimmy boquist, who paul seemed to be tight with on the tour. maybe they've lost touch (i've always tried to not read things too literally, but it works).
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Post by pm on Aug 10, 2008 13:47:25 GMT -5
i LOVE the car-alarm guitar figure in "Be My Darling" be my darling has been stuck in my head since i woke up this morning. it's my current fave but there is so much here i'm sure that'll keep changing. i can't remember the last time i heard an album with this many great songs.
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Post by wecantgetanybetter on Aug 11, 2008 0:43:43 GMT -5
The Rocky Mountain News revisits 49:00 in an extended article on alternative internet distribution. www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/aug/10/web-sites-let-users-pick-share-market-music/There the fan consensus that the lawsuit bait was "Hello Goodbye" is cited. However, if it please the court, I'd like to point out that Reuben Kincaid was an extremely shrewd manager of the Partridge Family. From imdb's memorable quotes section: Reuben Kincaid: Free speech is great, until it's someone else speaking. Reuben Kincaid: If you're big enough to get away with it, then it's right. That's international law. Reuben Kincaid: Kincaid's Law: A dry client equals a broke manager.
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Post by timtoast on Aug 11, 2008 17:40:43 GMT -5
The new issue of Rolling Stone magazine reviews 49:00 and gives it a 4 star rating.
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Post by grandpaboysfriend on Aug 11, 2008 23:48:53 GMT -5
i LOVE the car-alarm guitar figure in "Be My Darling" It sounds like Bob on "16 Blue." I thought it was Paul who played the second lead on Sixteen Blue. That's what the liner notes say on my copy and if we're refering to the car alarm guitar on Be My Darling, which is my current fav, then I figure we're talking about the second lead on 16 Blue.
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Post by true outlaw on Aug 12, 2008 7:45:36 GMT -5
Hey, first time post, but I have been reading the site for years. With the release of 49:00 (and 5:05) I feel like the fans are seeing a new Paul Westerberg. The Paul we have been waiting for since mono/stereo. However, I also feel like 49:00 is more for the die hard fans. I couldn't imagine reccommending 49:00 to anyone, but maybe thats because of the production quality and the mish mash of songs together. Either way, this is some of the best stuff I have ever heard Paul do. He is hitting that Keith Richards/Johnny Thunders vibe so well. From "Devil Raised A Good Boy" to "Visitors Day" he is on fire.
I would love to hear a full length version "Thouroughbred"
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Post by pm on Aug 12, 2008 9:19:02 GMT -5
Hey, first time post, but I have been reading the site for years. With the release of 49:00 (and 5:05) I feel like the fans are seeing a new Paul Westerberg. The Paul we have been waiting for since mono/stereo. However, I also feel like 49:00 is more for the die hard fans. I couldn't imagine reccommending 49:00 to anyone, but maybe thats because of the production quality and the mish mash of songs together. Either way, this is some of the best stuff I have ever heard Paul do. He is hitting that Keith Richards/Johnny Thunders vibe so well. From "Devil Raised A Good Boy" to "Visitors Day" he is on fire. I would love to hear a full length version "Thouroughbred" i couldn't agree more with everything you've said. good first time post : )
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Post by numinous on Aug 12, 2008 15:44:30 GMT -5
49:00 is 43:55. If you add 5:05 to 43:55 you get 49:00.
Coincidence? I think not.
5:05 is the super-secret hidden bonus-track, only it's not very secret, not very well hidden, and, since it costs between 99¢ and $5.05, not very 'bonus' either.
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Post by TomT on Aug 12, 2008 20:11:57 GMT -5
After about 15 listens to the whole "track" I gotta say that Goodnight Prince is one of the rawest vocals Paul has done since stuff like Answering Machine and Treatment Bound. The song gives me chills. Just an absolute great take. Knowing Paul, probably take 1.
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Post by hudson99 on Aug 13, 2008 17:24:43 GMT -5
49:00 is 43:55. If you add 5:05 to 43:55 you get 49:00. Coincidence? I think not. 5:05 is the super-secret hidden bonus-track, only it's not very secret, not very well hidden, and, since it costs between 99¢ and $5.05, not very 'bonus' either. If this was one of the other boards I'm on, I could have quite a bit of fun the fact that you found it necessary to state this obvious "fact" in two separate threads. But I'll be nice. I do have to ask, though. Did you seriously think you were the first person to make this conclusion, and you just had to jump on here to point it out without first reading to see if others had made the same point? lol
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Post by Placemat on Aug 13, 2008 18:00:13 GMT -5
After about 15 listens to the whole "track" I gotta say that Goodnight Prince is one of the rawest vocals Paul has done since stuff like Answering Machine and Treatment Bound. The song gives me chills. Just an absolute great take. Knowing Paul, probably take 1. Yeah. I'd say the rawest to date. It's almost too much. Too naked. His vocal is like a open, bleeding wound. When he gets to the part about waking Ma...fuck, it kills me. People been saying how they'd love to hear a clean version, but I donno. I like it the way it is. The overplaying track(s) help take the edge off. I'd be surprised if this wasn't his intent. Not sure I ever wanna her this one live.
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Post by numinous on Aug 13, 2008 18:04:17 GMT -5
I couldn't imagine I was the first person to reach the conclusion--but I read the thread just after finding the first and downloading the latter but before reading other websites. So now it's here.
And although I hate to respond similarly on multiple posts, they are all related discussions where the question was posed (but largely unanswered) as to whether 5:05 was a response to 49:00 and it's suspected subsequent industry backlash. To paraphrase my post on the 5:05 discussion, I think it was both.
He's certainly watchful enough of the recording industry to know what's been going on regarding digital distribution, songs vs. albums, and mash-ups. Not to say the backlash was part of the plan, but an analog holdout releasing an album modern in both it's distribution and format, as well as it's marketing, that was both a statement about and within modern-media and ownership. It's a statement that records are meant to be albums, and listening to them is supposed to be an experience--a whole experience--a devoted experience. If it's only 49:00 of our lives, how many of his?
In contrast, the seconds I spent writing my first post and you spent replying to it are negligible, no?
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Post by pm on Aug 13, 2008 18:05:24 GMT -5
The overplaying track(s) help take the edge off. I'd be surprised if this wasn't his intent. i agree. but the taking of the edge off gives it even more of an edge, if that makes any sense...
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Post by Placemat on Aug 13, 2008 18:10:25 GMT -5
I would love to hear a full length version "Thoroughbred" Me too. I think Tom mentioned how bits from this record were sticking in his head & coming back at odd times. Thoroughbred is the big one for me. 'Coarse when I'm actually listening to it DRAGB opens fire like lightning, & all else is forgotten.
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Post by TomT on Aug 13, 2008 18:44:08 GMT -5
The "You're my girl" chorus is really great too. Would love to hear that whole song.
Shit, PW needs to tour this fall. Even if he's solo I want to hear these songs live.
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Post by hudson99 on Aug 15, 2008 17:40:20 GMT -5
Here's an angle that I don't think anybody has brought up yet. How many, if any, of these tracks were originally written with Open Season in mind? I seem to recall Paul saying back then that he had written 20 or so songs, and the producers/director/whomever paired it down to the handful he recorded for the movie. There's a couple of songs I can see as perfect for the movie, including even the Partridge Family cover
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Post by kgp on Aug 15, 2008 18:13:58 GMT -5
Here's an angle that I don't think anybody has brought up yet. How many, if any, of these tracks were originally written with Open Season in mind? I seem to recall Paul saying back then that he had written 20 or so songs, and the producers/director/whomever paired it down to the handful he recorded for the movie. There's a couple of songs I can see as perfect for the movie, including even the Partridge Family cover "Everyone's Stupid" is one. You know, I wonder if that has anything to do with the album being pulled. Seems as I remember Paul saying something to the effect of "let them sue me" or "I dare them to sue me" if one of the songs were to show up on a future record.
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