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Post by torethatbridgeout on Apr 9, 2004 14:49:13 GMT -5
20 basic PW questions:
1. So should All Shook Down be considered a PW solo album or not? 2. Was 14 Songs promoted well enough? 3. Which was better, the 14 Songs tour or the Eventually tour? 4. Why did it take so long to put out Eventually? 5. Why does Eventually seem so flat (in places or overall)? 6. Why didn't Seein Her or Stain Yer Blood get on an album? 7. Does anyone know exactly when the songs on Mono or Stereo were written? 8. When did Paul start smoking cigars? 9. Is it correct to assume that DMS and CFMT are made up of songs that he wrote after Mono/Stereo? 10. Would Bob's guitar work have fucked up Paul's future songs?
I'll come back or can someone else finish off 20?
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Post by Numskll on Apr 9, 2004 15:04:07 GMT -5
11. In light of early promise shown as a front man for the Replacements, should PW's solo career be viewed as a dissapointment.
This should have been number 1!
12. Do the Replacements enjoy the James Dean/Marilyn Munroe/Police phenomena, in that they are more loved and revered and considered more important becuase they died young?
Ok, maybe the Police don't really count as Sting has lived waaaaay too long. Someone break that little activists microphone. Dreams of blue turtles, indeed
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Post by scoOter on Apr 9, 2004 15:11:17 GMT -5
11. In light of early promise shown as a front man for the Replacements, should PW's solo career be viewed as a dissapointment. This should have been number 1! 12. Do the Replacements enjoy the James Dean/Marilyn Munroe/Police phenomena, in that they are more loved and revered and considered more important becuase they died young? Ok, maybe the Police don't really count as Sting has lived waaaaay too long. Someone break that little activists microphone. Dreams of blue turtles, indeed hold on, maybe we should start ANSWERING some questions: numskull... #11 (or your #1) - no. #12 - NO! they really were that good.
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Post by prozach on Apr 9, 2004 15:26:53 GMT -5
#13 - Would yellow spandex pants, long blode hair, and more extended drum and bass solos have helped the Mats gain a larger audience?
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Post by Monkey on Apr 9, 2004 15:31:04 GMT -5
#13 - Would yellow spandex pants, long blode hair, and more extended drum and bass solos have helped the Mats gain a larger audience? #14 - Would anyone in that larger audience have been capable of reading without moving their lips? (just kidding metal fans, just kidding)
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Post by zook on Apr 9, 2004 15:55:37 GMT -5
#13 - Would yellow spandex pants, long blode hair, and more extended drum and bass solos have helped the Mats gain a larger audience? It worked for Stryper.
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Post by Kathy on Apr 9, 2004 16:55:37 GMT -5
5. Why does Eventually seem so flat (in places or overall)? Cause it is
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Post by claypigeon on Apr 9, 2004 17:49:22 GMT -5
1. So should All Shook Down be considered a PW solo album or not? No, because that would mess up all the song polls that Kathy set up for the Folker tour. Because then the album might have been a big hit and The Man just won't let that happen to Paul Right after they were recorded. Not necessarily. Probably more so with DMS. Never Felt Like This Before sounds like it could have been from SG, Meet Me Down The Alley and What A Day sound like they could have been from around Eventually, etc. Again, not necessarily. Bob could play some great melodic leads when he felt like it (see Sixteen Blue). I think he would have been able to add some great stuff that really suits the songs. Whether or not he'd like the songs is another matter.
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Post by torethatbridgeout on Apr 9, 2004 18:43:06 GMT -5
5. Why does Eventually seem so flat (in places or overall)? Cause it is As someone who wasn't there (briefly left the cult) I was wondering how could he do such a flat album? What was the root cause, the reason, the raison d'etre, the explanation, the lowdown, the bottom line, the scuttlebutt ...
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Post by jagger46 on Apr 9, 2004 19:25:17 GMT -5
3. Which was better, the 14 Songs tour or the Eventually tour? I may be in the minority here, but the 14 songs band seemed much looser and relaxed. They just appeared to be having more fun. Also, the Eventually tour had Paul and the guys in suits, and it just looked very odd and kind of old and lame.
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Post by prozach on Apr 9, 2004 21:49:14 GMT -5
15 - "Disdain for the Audience" Phil Hartman/Frank Sinatra.
It's punk, it's part of his appeal, but earlier in the Mats career, if they'd been more consistent and thrown less hotel furtiture at fans, what would've happened?
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Post by wibbler on Apr 10, 2004 18:42:43 GMT -5
20 basic PW questions: 6. Why didn't Seein Her or Stain Yer Blood get on an album? Stain Yer Blood is the 13th track on "outside the US" CD pressings of Eventually. I have it on the Australian pressing that I bought on release in New Zealand.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 11, 2004 0:50:43 GMT -5
Never Felt Like This Before sounds like it could have been from SG, Meet Me Down The Alley and What A Day sound like they could have been from around Eventually, etc. Paul said in at least one interview that he found "Never Felt Like This Before" on a tape next to "Self Defense", so he slapped it on the CFMT soundtrack as a little bit of filler. He's also said that "What A Day" was written for someone else during the 14 Songs era.
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Post by kgp on Apr 11, 2004 17:12:53 GMT -5
Paul said in at least one interview that he found "Never Felt Like This Before" on a tape next to "Self Defense", so he slapped it on the CFMT soundtrack as a little bit of filler. He's also said that "What A Day" was written for someone else during the 14 Songs era. From Suicaine through Come Feel Me Tremble there's a glut of "what am I doin' I ain't in my youth.." type of songs. I've always assumed they must have been written around the same time. ( Suicaine sessions?).
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Post by Placemat on Apr 12, 2004 10:50:51 GMT -5
20 basic PW questions: 1. So should All Shook Down be considered a PW solo album or not? Yes, no matter what the name on the jacket says.
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Post by duckfoot on Apr 12, 2004 11:01:35 GMT -5
1. So should All Shook Down be considered a PW solo album or not? I think the consensus would be "yes" I would think so as well.
2. Was 14 Songs promoted well enough? Probably not as well as it could have been.
3. Which was better, the 14 Songs tour or the Eventually tour? I like the Eventually Tour better. Tommy Keene and Michael Bland made that band rock.
4. Why did it take so long to put out Eventually? No idea 5. Why does Eventually seem so flat (in places or overall)? No idea
6. Why didn't Seein Her or Stain Yer Blood get on an album? No idea
7. Does anyone know exactly when the songs on Mono or Stereo were written? Probably while Paul was kicking back on his front porch. 8. When did Paul start smoking cigars? I believe that was when he quit smoking cigarettes. Around the time of SG 9. Is it correct to assume that DMS and CFMT are made up of songs that he wrote after Mono/Stereo? I wouldn't want to assume. It "makes an ass out of u and me"
10. Would Bob's guitar work have f*cked up Paul's future songs? I would like to think it would not have.
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Post by BigWheel on Apr 12, 2004 14:01:30 GMT -5
14 songs had better pre -release efforts than most records released that year by any company.
3 songs had blurbs on a "coming soon' tape that went out to radio and record stores. There was a promo version of the album that is kind of collectible. He talked to every single magazine that would listen to him. he appeared on SNL as well as MTV (120 minutes) fro 14 songs. He toured with dedication for the album. 2 videos were made from the album with LARGE budgets.
A big expensive producer was hired to do the record. Good studio players were hired for the album.
It was not a record company problem. It just happened to be an 80 percent lousy record.
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Post by Christy on Apr 12, 2004 22:44:10 GMT -5
i think lots of people would argue that it wasn't lousy per se....
it is just so much more pop than anything he had done previously....thoroughly, differently pop (at least in my mind).
here is an interesting question that just occurred to me. there is always the question, "what if" in regard to the replacements.... but what about this: what if pw had put out stereo/mono instead of 14 songs at that phase of his career?
what would have happened next?
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Post by scoOter on Apr 12, 2004 22:48:32 GMT -5
dude, it had:
world class fad runaway wind even here we are black eyed susan down love
it is fantastic just for those songs!
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Post by ClamsCasino on Apr 13, 2004 2:45:15 GMT -5
here is an interesting question that just occurred to me. there is always the question, "what if" in regard to the replacements.... but what about this: what if pw had put out stereo/mono instead of 14 songs at that phase of his career? what would have happened next? Interesting. He got great reviews for Stero/Mono, but I think it would have been the opposite if the album had been his first solo release. It would have felt too much like he was trying to recreate the Replacements sound by himself, and he would have ended up looking silly. "See, I can play drums as good as Chris...whoops, no I can't." On the other hand, if All Shook Down were his first official solo album, then I think there would have been even more raves and much more media attention. It's the best "solo" record he's made.
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