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Post by headlightbeams on Jan 22, 2006 16:50:35 GMT -5
I forget if this is a new variant on an old thread or not but:
What are the indisputable musical lifts in PW/Mats songs?
(Not just "Stonesy" or "Beatlesque" but out-and-out unabashed red-handed direct quotes)
Such as perhaps the two most recent ones:
- "Please Please Me"- Beatles ("My Daydream")
- "Hwy. 61 Revisited" - Dylan ("My Dad")
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Post by nazareth on Jan 22, 2006 17:22:11 GMT -5
-"Anything But That" - Faces ("My Fault")
-"Between Love and Like" - About 6 songs before it ("Silent Film Star")
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Post by kgp on Jan 22, 2006 18:15:05 GMT -5
(Not just "Stonesy" or "Beatlesque" but out-and-out unabashed red-handed direct quotes) You mean lyrically? Like 'Kickin' the Stall' from the Stones' 'Bitch?' Or the line 'she never finishes, she abandons' copped from Paul Valery's 'a poem is never finished, only abandoned?' |
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Post by headlightbeams on Jan 22, 2006 21:52:33 GMT -5
I was thinking musically, but lyrical lifts that close would be worth tracking too.
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Post by Strange and Grandiose on Jan 22, 2006 22:34:30 GMT -5
I forget if this is a new variant on an old thread or not but: What are the indisputable musical lifts in PW/Mats songs? (Not just "Stonesy" or "Beatlesque" but out-and-out unabashed red-handed direct quotes) Such as perhaps the two most recent ones: - "Please Please Me"- Beatles ("My Daydream") - "Hwy. 61 Revisited" - Dylan ("My Dad") Isn't it "Positively 4th Street" (rather than "Hwy. 61 Revisited")? And the guitar riff in "Kicking the Stall," is "Waiting on a Friend." I never noticed that line in "Bitch" before. And kgp pointed out recently that "Hold My Life" contains some lines from a children's book (the "razzle dazzle drone" part). Waitress in the Sky evokes Spirit in the Sky, but maybe not quite enough to be considered an full blown lift. |
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Post by headlightbeams on Jan 22, 2006 23:04:10 GMT -5
Isn't it "Positively 4th Street" (rather than "Hwy. 61 Revisited")? thanks for the correction. I'm terrible with Dylan titles. I don't think there's a one that makes the least sense to me. Maybe "Lay Lady Lay" but that's about it. (Guess that's like that comedian and "Tim" from that other thread) Back to the list: "Oh Darling" - Beatles ("Mr. Whirly") and i contend but no one agrees so I guess it's very disputable: "I'm Only Sleeping" - Beatles ("I Will Dare") |
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Post by Chris on Jan 22, 2006 23:16:17 GMT -5
"Lookin' Out Forever" & "The Ledge" -same chord structure, same theme. Must also mention "Garys Got A Boner", courtesy of Mr. Ted Nugent.
And that line stolen from the poet Tom Petty....
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Post by brianlux on Jan 22, 2006 23:38:00 GMT -5
I still think that brief strat sounding riff during the fragment of "Who know Where the Time Goes" at the end of "Folk Star" sounds like something snatched from Jimi Hendrix's, "Little Wing"... but it could just be my mind playing tricks on me. OK- a VERY disputable lift, but I like the idea anyway!
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Post by headlightbeams on Jan 23, 2006 6:45:27 GMT -5
What's that mats song where they play a little snatch of Perry Mason or horror movie melody: "Dumm-de-Dumdum ... Dumm-de-Dumdum-DAAAAANH"? Is that on "I Don't Know"?
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Post by DaveinDK on Jan 23, 2006 7:34:19 GMT -5
Paul lifts his own riff and basic chord pattern from Alex Chilton over and over again
Talent Show
All Shook Down (Alex Chilton slowed way down)
spring to mind immediately. There's more, just can't think of them right now...
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Post by who? on Jan 23, 2006 9:55:43 GMT -5
What's that mats song where they play a little snatch of Perry Mason or horror movie melody: "Dumm-de-Dumdum ... Dumm-de-Dumdum-DAAAAANH"? Is that on "I Don't Know"? "red light, red light RUN IT!" (on Hootenanny) |
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Post by who? on Jan 23, 2006 9:58:17 GMT -5
[quote author=chrisc board=generalpw thread=1137966635 post=1137989777
And that line stolen from the poet Tom Petty....[/quote]
Which line you talkin' about?
If it's "A rebel without a clue", it's the other way around my friend. If not, please 'scuse me.
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Post by TomT on Jan 23, 2006 10:03:22 GMT -5
The Razzle Drazzle Drone bit from hold My Life is from a cartoon show. Something about a Mr. Wizard I think. I remember the cartoon from the late sixties or early seventies.
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Post by kgp on Jan 23, 2006 10:12:27 GMT -5
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Post by TomT on Jan 23, 2006 10:18:49 GMT -5
Damn, how'd I miss that thread.......
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Post by Placemat on Jan 23, 2006 10:29:13 GMT -5
What's that mats song where they play a little snatch of Perry Mason or horror movie melody: "Dumm-de-Dumdum ... Dumm-de-Dumdum-DAAAAANH"? Is that on "I Don't Know"? "red light, red light RUN IT!" (on Hootenanny) & the bit is the "Dragnet" theme. |
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Post by larkin on Jan 24, 2006 7:50:21 GMT -5
Best Thing That Never Happened - Like A Rolling Stone
Paul hints at lifts when he transitions songs at shows...
Cherry Cherry - Folkstar
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Post by TomT on Jan 24, 2006 11:46:00 GMT -5
There were a few shows in 87 where he played 3 songs and said they were basically the same. One was Buck Hill then into Kiss me on the Bus and I dont remember the other.
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Post by pline on Jan 24, 2006 12:54:01 GMT -5
Taps is being played throughout Nowhere Man if that counts.
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Post by headlightbeams on Jan 24, 2006 15:33:57 GMT -5
not subtle but:
"Like a Rolling Stone" - Bob Dylan ("Like a Rolling Pin")
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