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Post by RockNRollGhost on Aug 11, 2021 9:38:49 GMT -5
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Post by anarkissed on Aug 11, 2021 10:44:55 GMT -5
Heh...Just saw that...Maybe this will be a welcome diversion from the political discussion...
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Post by oldmatsfan on Aug 11, 2021 10:45:03 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this, hadn't heard about it yet. Unfortunately I'm a bit gun shy on dealing with the Rhino store after the disappointing service from the last Mats box set. Rhino sent me a 10% coupon to make up for the fiasco, but it won't work at check out this time, so I'm not going to place my pre-order just yet. Updates if I hear back from Rhino.
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Post by curmudgeonman on Aug 11, 2021 13:11:30 GMT -5
I frankly don't have an interest in this; I don't think a "re-master" of this album will improve sonically, or be a whole new sound. I have the original demos, and have heard the 7th st. stuff enough over the years.
Now a whole new treatment of Tim would be awesome, especially if they can completely re-mix and master the album. Great songs, but shitty mix. THAT would be worth good money and hassles thru Rhino.
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Post by Hagbard on Aug 11, 2021 19:36:20 GMT -5
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Post by con on Aug 11, 2021 20:44:41 GMT -5
I frankly don't have an interest in this; I don't think a "re-master" of this album will improve sonically, or be a whole new sound. I have the original demos, and have heard the 7th st. stuff enough over the years. Now a whole new treatment of Tim would be awesome, especially if they can completely re-mix and master the album. Great songs, but shitty mix. THAT would be worth good money and hassles thru Rhino. Hear hear. Hope Tim is next. I’ve never connected with Sorry Ma in the transformative way I have with the other records, but I’m curious about some of these demos and the live show. A hundred bucks is a bit tough to swallow at the moment though. Sheesh. |
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Post by hcc515 on Aug 11, 2021 21:32:36 GMT -5
A RE-master/RE-mix on TIM, Yes. I want that too. I want to put that record on, and go back in time to 35 years ago in my mind. To get that feeling again. Sitting in my College cafeteria and hearing the beginning of Bastards of Young for the first time. Now with a Re-Mix that would embarrass my sonically
challenged speakers.
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Post by oldmatsfan on Aug 11, 2021 21:55:54 GMT -5
I frankly don't have an interest in this; I don't think a "re-master" of this album will improve sonically, or be a whole new sound. I have the original demos, and have heard the 7th st. stuff enough over the years. Now a whole new treatment of Tim would be awesome, especially if they can completely re-mix and master the album. Great songs, but shitty mix. THAT would be worth good money and hassles thru Rhino. Hear hear. Hope Tim is next. I’ve never connected with Sorry Ma in the transformative way I have with the other records, but I’m curious about some of these demos and the live show. A hundred bucks is a bit tough to swallow at the moment though. Sheesh. I agree, $100 seems a bit much, so I'm considering the $80 version without the buttons, bumper sticker & 7" single. I too would like to see (hear) Tim remaster / outtakes, demos etc.., so I support this release with the hope that the sales will show Warner / Rhino there's still a market out there for the Mats and they'll continue to dig around for some more gems to be released. |
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Post by con on Aug 11, 2021 22:16:52 GMT -5
Hear hear. Hope Tim is next. I’ve never connected with Sorry Ma in the transformative way I have with the other records, but I’m curious about some of these demos and the live show. A hundred bucks is a bit tough to swallow at the moment though. Sheesh. I agree, $100 seems a bit much, so I'm considering the $80 version without the buttons, bumper sticker & 7" single. I too would like to see (hear) Tim remaster / outtakes, demos etc.., so I support this release with the hope that the sales will show Warner / Rhino there's still a market out there for the Mats and they'll continue to dig around for some more gems to be released. Excellent point! |
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Post by con on Aug 11, 2021 22:23:26 GMT -5
A RE-master/RE-mix on TIM, Yes. I want that too. I want to put that record on, and go back in time to 35 years ago in my mind. To get that feeling again. Sitting in my College cafeteria and hearing the beginning of Bastards of Young for the first time. Now with a Re-Mix that would embarrass my sonically challenged speakers. Welcome to the forum, hcc515. And cheers to ‘Mats-induced time traveling. Milan Kundera nailed it: “The basic situations in life occur only once, never to return. For a man to be a man, he must be fully aware of this never-to-return.” |
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Post by Jer on Aug 12, 2021 7:03:58 GMT -5
Everyone's pining for a Tim package, and that would be awesome, especially if there's a remix with it. And I get the trepidation with Rhino - they've gotten better, but not great, and it's been a disaster.
But I think you're maybe getting a bit spoiled with the deluxe editions if you're not stoked about this. Before DMP would anyone have complained about this? There's a lot of stuff here that's never been heard, and the live show will sound way better than the tapes that were passed around 15 years ago. I've been as critical as anyone about what I like and don't like about these editions, but this seems like a pretty good package to me, certainly better than the PTMM box, and short of the Matt Wallace mix at least as good as DMP as far as content goes. Maybe the material/era doesn't move you as much, but as far as the breadth of the project, it's hard to beat. If you don't want to deal with Rhino, order it through your local store - it's a win/win. I wish the books were hardcover or at least some sort of heavy cardstock cover. That's my biggest gripe about these. Look for the live CD to be a 2XLP for a future RSD, or an outtakes/demos LP.
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Post by oldmatsfan on Aug 12, 2021 7:48:52 GMT -5
Update to my earlier post: Rhino contacted me and has fixed the coupon code so I went ahead and placed an order today.
I certainly hope they've fixed their distribution issues and that those of us who pre-order, actually receive ours before those who ordered from another online retailer such as Amazon. I also hope they've tightened up their web security and our personal info doesn't fall in to the wrong hand as it did for another Mats box set.
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Post by Jer on Aug 12, 2021 12:33:19 GMT -5
Update to my earlier post: Rhino contacted me and has fixed the coupon code so I went ahead and placed an order today. I certainly hope they've fixed their distribution issues and that those of us who pre-order, actually receive ours before those who ordered from another online retailer such as Amazon. I also hope they've tightened up their web security and our personal info doesn't fall in to the wrong hand as it did for another Mats box set. I ordered a couple of the Black Sabbath sets they've issued and got them within a week or so after the release. One was damaged, and they sent me a new one. I also complained about the PTMM placemat, thrown into a box and bent up, and they sent me a (slightly less bent) one. Their customer service is VERY slow - like weeks between responses - but they've at least come through for me eventually. It's inexcusable, but at least it's something. It's crazy because their product is so good...they just can't follow up with the service.
Pre-orders from labels with their shit together (like Merge) usually arrive on release date at the latest, and that's a bummer here, because it probably won't happen, but it's been way better than DMP, where I think I waited months for my copy. Good indie stores will have it on release date if anyone wants to go that route.
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Post by curmudgeonman on Aug 12, 2021 15:03:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I haven't listened to Sorry Ma since I got the new Rhino release with all the extra tracks over 10 years ago. Hell, my only copy of Stink is a vinyl LP I bought in the 80s and I haven't put it on my turntable in over 30 years. I also rarely listen to most of the outtakes and b-sides, focusing primarily on the regular studio tracks of Let it Be, Tim, PTMM, and All Shook Down. But a release I tend to listen to at least once a month is the Live at Maxwells, I'm still blown away at the sound and playing. |
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Post by Hagbard on Aug 17, 2021 18:09:48 GMT -5
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Post by oldmatsfan on Aug 17, 2021 19:20:57 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see what it looks like knowing how much the Mats loathed music videos. |
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Post by jobe on Aug 19, 2021 7:45:36 GMT -5
Ordered mine yesterday. These once a year deluxe sets are killing me
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Post by twicks1 on Aug 19, 2021 9:46:20 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see if this set is as big a success as the last two. I know plenty of people like Sorry Ma... but I can't imagine it has anywhere near the number of fans as Let It Be or Tim. I wonder if they felt they had to go with this record next simply because it had the most "bonus content" available to them. If it's a bust I hope it doesn't end the streak...
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Post by Hagbard on Aug 19, 2021 20:10:56 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see what it looks like knowing how much the Mats loathed music videos. I just watched it. I really liked it, it’s great. It’s got that snotty nosed youthful vibe, which suits the music and the band at this time. The whole thing I thought was a whole lotta fun. So looking forward to this release, I love Sorry Ma. |
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Post by oldmatsfan on Aug 19, 2021 20:20:01 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see what it looks like knowing how much the Mats loathed music videos. I just watched it. I really liked it, it’s great. It’s got that snotty nosed youthful vibe, which suits the music and the band at this time. The whole thing I thought was a whole lotta fun. So looking forward to this release, I love Sorry Ma. I saw it as well, different than what I expected but decent. I was expecting they'd dig up some live footage, but the B&W gave it a cool vibe. |
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