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Post by firespirit on Sept 29, 2020 4:26:26 GMT -5
Paul wrote songs about both of them. Both died (relatively) young in New Orleans. Both had sons that would later serve prison time....
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Post by thematsarealive on Sept 30, 2020 21:30:13 GMT -5
Did Alex Chilton have children? Big Star is really great but I was not aware that he had kids
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Post by firespirit on Oct 1, 2020 1:56:54 GMT -5
Did Alex Chilton have children? Big Star is really great but I was not aware that he had kids He had a son named Timothee who is about 50 now. I think he is currently serving time in prison. |
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Post by nazareth on Oct 1, 2020 16:47:38 GMT -5
Both were incredible songwriters that were probably too naked and unpolished for the masses. Both inspired much larger artists that cleaned up the act a bit.
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Post by FreeRider on Oct 2, 2020 8:36:36 GMT -5
don't mean to hijack the thread here, but does anyone think that the Mats and Big Star were kind of like kindred spirits? I still haven't seen the Big Star documentary but it seems like there are a bunch of parallels with the career path/arc for both bands and/or Alex and Paul. Or it's just that both of them lived the lives of artists in that the vast majority of them struggle financially.
Kind of a shame that it took the Bangles later incarnation (I liked their earlier works when they were more retro and not glossy pop stuff), not REM or some band more fitting, to get Alex some royalty checks for covering "September Gurls" on their gold or platinum album.
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Post by curmudgeonman on Oct 2, 2020 17:45:38 GMT -5
don't mean to hijack the thread here, but does anyone think that the Mats and Big Star were kind of like kindred spirits? I still haven't seen the Big Star documentary but it seems like there are a bunch of parallels with the career path/arc for both bands and/or Alex and Paul. Or it's just that both of them lived the lives of artists in that the vast majority of them struggle financially. Kind of a shame that it took the Bangles later incarnation (I liked their earlier works when they were more retro and not glossy pop stuff), not REM or some band more fitting, to get Alex some royalty checks for covering "September Gurls" on their gold or platinum album. The Replacements and Big Star had some similarities, but I don't think they were kindred spirits in the true sense. Both had lackluster careers, for different reasons though. And both influenced a shitload of bands. Both had cantankerous leaders, even though Chilton was more of an natural at it, while Westerberg was playing catch-up to him. But Big Star took it more seriously than the 'Mats, but just had the bad luck of poor distribution. And they were very different musically.
Having The Bangles cover his song, and for having In The Street on that 70s TV show was a blessing for him, giving him some financial stability, enabling him to buy car, a house, etc. Kind of like John Doe; he wasn't able to buy his old Bakersfield house and other material items until he started to get acting gigs in movies.
One thing Johnny Thunders and Alex Chilton had in common; their bands influenced KISS. From Rolling Stone over 5 years ago-
"They began writing new songs, liberally borrowing bits of all the rock they loved. Until egos pulled them apart, Stanley and Simmons were a true writing team: King and Goffin in greasepaint, Bizarro-world Becker and Fagen. The sound they were leaning toward was tight and hooky – the first demo version of "Strutter" is pure power pop, not that different from Big Star's "In the Street." "We've always been about verses, choruses, bridges," says Stanley. "It's called a hook for a reason, because it grabs you. And that's my mentality. Give me the Raspberries. Give me Small Faces. Give me Big Star."
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