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Post by holeinthedrapes on Jul 28, 2020 19:54:43 GMT -5
I can appreciate thematsarealive's hesitancy to read the book. I wish I hadn't. It's a very well written and thorough book, but between the good parts, it's a really tough story about a bunch of unlikable, damaged, destructive people doing shitty things. If I didn't love the band so much I probably would have enjoyed it more. I know most people processed it differently, and that's cool, but if you'd rather leave some things to the imagination and keep some of the mystique intact, I'd encourage you to skip it. I loved the book. Read it in a very short time. And when I was done I was pretty disgusted by the group as a whole. Definitely not a “feel good” book but it certainly felt honest.
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Post by Hagbard on Jul 28, 2020 23:11:42 GMT -5
I can appreciate thematsarealive's hesitancy to read the book. I wish I hadn't. It's a very well written and thorough book, but between the good parts, it's a really tough story about a bunch of unlikable, damaged, destructive people doing shitty things. If I didn't love the band so much I probably would have enjoyed it more. I know most people processed it differently, and that's cool, but if you'd rather leave some things to the imagination and keep some of the mystique intact, I'd encourage you to skip it. I loved the book. Ready in a very short time. And when I was done I was pretty disgusted by the group as a whole. Definitely not a “feel good” book but it certainly felt honest. I felt the total opposite. The book made me love the band even more.
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Post by hoodwinkjr on Jul 28, 2020 23:59:47 GMT -5
I had spent enough time with Slim many years ago to be prepared for the real story which I feel Mehr told so well. Reading about the specific behavior that burned so many bridges for them it made Me better understand Tommy’s distaste for the bands ‘legacy as well though I think he has mostly gotten over it. It was so well written and honest I don’t think a biopic could do It justice.
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Post by Jer on Jul 29, 2020 12:19:11 GMT -5
I loved the book. Ready in a very short time. And when I was done I was pretty disgusted by the group as a whole. Definitely not a “feel good” book but it certainly felt honest. I felt the total opposite. The book made me love the band even more. I appreciate the honesty and also greatly respect the book as literature, but knowing what terrible people they were couldn't possibly do anything but diminish my respect and admiration for them. I struggle to see how the book paints any sort of positive light that would improve someone's opinion of them. If I'd behaved like that and treated people trying to help me the way they did I'd be ashamed, and the last thing I'd want is a book written about it. I can still listen to and love their music, but I love records by Ted Nugent, Oasis, Ryan Adams, and a bunch of other seriously personally-flawed artists too. Also....not saying that people don't change and they are that way still (though I have stories and opinions about that too), just talking about the book and perceptions that it created about those times.
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Post by anarkissed on Jul 29, 2020 15:39:38 GMT -5
I loved the book. For some reason, it didn't bother me at all. Maybe that says something about me that isn't too good...
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Post by anarkissed on Jul 29, 2020 15:56:17 GMT -5
I'm a sucker for the musical biopic...Mostly, I like the performance scenes. If these are done well, it's like a fantasy version of what it might have been like to actually be there at that time. The Apollo scene from "The Buddy Holly Story", for example. Especially if the actor is actually singing, as Gary Busey was here. It's better than any real clip I'm ever going to see of the real Buddy Holly. I liked "Great Balls of Fire", just because the band was John Doe, Jimmy Vaughan, and Mojo Nixon. That was pretty cool casting. (Bonus points for Winona Ryder as his thirteen year old cousin bride.) "The Doors" had a scene depicting them performing "The End" for the first time in a little club in Los Angeles, and doing the "Not to Touch the Earth" sequence from "Celebration of The Lizard" at some big bacchanalian outdoor festival. Those were better than any clips I've seen of the actual Doors. Those are the better ones. "Walk The Line". "Ray". "Walk Hard"...There are some real stinkers, like that Hendrix one someone mentioned.
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Post by jd19jd on Jul 29, 2020 21:39:58 GMT -5
The only way that I could see their biopic be interesting, accurate and nuanced would be a ten/twelve part series. Do it as a character study about a bunch miscreants that happen to play music, form a band and generally behave badly. Jasperson is a big, and sad, part of the story that would get short shrift in a standard feature. The Stinson family alone would need a feature length film. (as I write this it sounds a little bit like 'Shameless). I know it may sound ridiculous for a band with limited name recognition to have a series but they, and many others no doubt, have the story to make it compelling. The less one knows about the band the more interesting it may be. Squeezing the music, alcohol, drugs, immaturity, chaos, recklessness, fleeting success/chronic failure into two hours will never work.
Just a thought
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Post by anarkissed on Jul 30, 2020 13:27:44 GMT -5
The only way that I could see their biopic be interesting, accurate and nuanced would be a ten/twelve part series. Do it as a character study about a bunch miscreants that happen to play music, form a band and generally behave badly. Jasperson is a big, and sad, part of the story that would get short shrift in a standard feature. The Stinson family alone would need a feature length film. (as I write this it sounds a little bit like 'Shameless). I know it may sound ridiculous for a band with limited name recognition to have a series but they, and many others no doubt, have the story to make it compelling. The less one knows about the band the more interesting it may be. Squeezing the music, alcohol, drugs, immaturity, chaos, recklessness, fleeting success/chronic failure into two hours will never work. Just a thought I think this would be a good idea even if the series were simply based on a band like The Replacements. "Better call Saul" should be wrapping soon. Here's Vince Gilligan's next project...
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Post by curmudgeonman on Jul 30, 2020 13:58:39 GMT -5
The ONLY movie I would be interested in seeing about The Replacements would be a Scorsese The Last Waltz type of film project. If the rumors are correct, footage from the reunion tour (with hopefully candid backstage footage) interspersed with current filmed interviews of band and associates, including Chris Mars.
I'll take Scorsese's The Last Waltz over any rock n roll biopic.
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Post by drens on Aug 1, 2020 8:29:53 GMT -5
My vote is for Machine Gun Kelly to play Tommy.
JOKE.
I'm kind of cringing at the thought of other people playing the roles of the fellas. I too, would much more prefer a thorough documentary with clips/interviews, and Gilbert Gottfried narrating.
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Post by twicks1 on Aug 10, 2020 12:33:28 GMT -5
I don't want this movie to happen...simply because it will make Paul money that I'd much rather he earn by releasing music or touring, CAN I GET AN AMEN, PEOPLE?
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Post by Freddy on Aug 13, 2020 16:27:17 GMT -5
The one rock bio pic I really enjoyed was the Dylan one, I’m Not There. However that was in no way a traditional rock bio. Yeah....another biopic in a non-traditional format, "Love & Mercy" about Brian Wilson was damn good.
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Post by raccoon on Aug 13, 2020 16:44:35 GMT -5
I don't want this movie to happen...simply because it will make Paul money that I'd much rather he earn by releasing music or touring, CAN I GET AN AMEN, PEOPLE? Amen! Am thinking about cutting off his water and gas.
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Post by The Muggler on Aug 27, 2020 21:33:24 GMT -5
New info about this in an interview with Josh Boone. Here's the relevant part, link to full interview below. Q: I’ve only got one more question, so I’m going to ask – this is now coming out; The Stand is coming out later; what’s next for you? What’s exciting for you in your future, post-this? A: This will tell you, again, how long things take. When we were shooting The New Mutants, I started working on, with Knate, we started working on an adaptation of Bob Mehr’s New York Times bestseller Troubled Boys, about the band The Replacements. So Nat Wolff is going to play Paul Westerberg. Nat’s been in just about everything I’ve done. He was in The Stand. He starred in my first movie. He was in The Fault in Our Stars. He’s one of the best actors on the planet. Owen Teague, who is in The Stand, is going to play Tommy Stinson in it – really in the second half of it, because in the first half, Tommy Stinson is like a 12-year-old. They were a band who had like a 12 or 13-year-old bass player through a lot of their early years. So, yeah, we’ve been working on that for years, and that’s really exciting. We’ve got all the scripts done for that, so I’m literally casting that right now. I’m going to go make that. And then I have a couple of other books under option that I’m sort of working on for after that. www.gamesradar.com/the-new-mutants-josh-boone-interview-sequel-strand-replacements/
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Post by heyoka on Aug 28, 2020 7:42:09 GMT -5
New info about this in an interview with Josh Boone. Here's the relevant part, link to full interview below. Q: I’ve only got one more question, so I’m going to ask – this is now coming out; The Stand is coming out later; what’s next for you? What’s exciting for you in your future, post-this? A: This will tell you, again, how long things take. When we were shooting The New Mutants, I started working on, with Knate, we started working on an adaptation of Bob Mehr’s New York Times bestseller Troubled Boys, about the band The Replacements. So Nat Wolff is going to play Paul Westerberg. Nat’s been in just about everything I’ve done. He was in The Stand. He starred in my first movie. He was in The Fault in Our Stars. He’s one of the best actors on the planet. Owen Teague, who is in The Stand, is going to play Tommy Stinson in it – really in the second half of it, because in the first half, Tommy Stinson is like a 12-year-old. They were a band who had like a 12 or 13-year-old bass player through a lot of their early years. So, yeah, we’ve been working on that for years, and that’s really exciting. We’ve got all the scripts done for that, so I’m literally casting that right now. I’m going to go make that. And then I have a couple of other books under option that I’m sort of working on for after that. www.gamesradar.com/the-new-mutants-josh-boone-interview-sequel-strand-replacements/ I was hoping casting would be a little more than "I'll just grab two kids I worked with before".
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Post by con on Aug 28, 2020 22:20:37 GMT -5
Wolff kid looks more like Mars than PW lol. And Teague looks like Johnny Rotten. Given the new Oscar diversity quotas Bob’ll have to be black. Or a lady.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Aug 28, 2020 23:01:22 GMT -5
Given the new Oscar diversity quotas Bob’ll have to be black. Or a lady. Don't cut yourself on that edge, grandpa.
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Post by con on Aug 28, 2020 23:55:20 GMT -5
Given the new Oscar diversity quotas Bob’ll have to be black. Or a lady. Don't cut yourself on that edge, grandpa. Golly, did I run afoul of the censors? I take it back—nobody can pull off a decent Bob Stinson. Inimitable.
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Post by Hagbard on Aug 29, 2020 0:46:59 GMT -5
I’m anti censorship, but I sure would like to censor this entire fucking movie.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Aug 29, 2020 13:05:53 GMT -5
Don't cut yourself on that edge, grandpa. Golly, did I run afoul of the censors? I take it back—nobody can pull off a decent Bob Stinson. Inimitable. You were censored?
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