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Post by stpaul on Jan 22, 2007 17:26:27 GMT -5
Anyone out there have any idea how the Open Season soundrack is selling? And, does PW have a cut of sales just like a normal album, or does the soundtrack thing work differently?
If the sales are solid, I would guess that makes it more of a possibility for the oscar nod for "I Belong."
You know, Gary Louris' song for Wordplay is another one that in a perfect world should be nominated. Considering that it's buried in a relatively obscure movie with no soundtrack, that's even more of a longshot than PW.
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Post by nazareth on Jan 22, 2007 22:32:51 GMT -5
I'm assuming the sales weren't so good. I get weekly soundscan reports for the top 200. In order to crack the top 200 you need to sell around 5,000 copies that week. Since the first week is usually the biggest for an artist like Paul and it never cracked the top 200, i'm guessing it didn't do all that well. S/M did about 50,000 overall and i'm sure Open Season isn't that much.
Remember also that while the movie is Sony Pictures, the soundtrack is Lost Highway. I don't think the Sony side of it is pushing the soundtrack at all. However, for Lost Highway, I bet Paul's sales are pretty good.
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Post by MacGyver on Jan 22, 2007 23:10:52 GMT -5
Nazareth: Do you have the stats on all of PW solo releases?
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Post by nazareth on Jan 23, 2007 10:24:28 GMT -5
I wish i did. I'm wondering if i can somehow get the numbers for that. The only reason i know how much S/M did is because i received a press sheet from Vagrant when Folker was released and it said that S/M had sold over 50,000 copies.
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Post by kgp on Jan 23, 2007 10:36:53 GMT -5
Nazareth: Do you have the stats on all of PW solo releases? Years ago I was browsing in a bookstore and picked up one of those record guides that actually listed the sales. From what I remember 14 Songs sold over 100,000 and Eventually sold about 80,000. Suicaine we already know topped out at about 50,000 (and according to all music, debuted just out of the top 100). Since his last few records barely creeped into the Billboard 200, I'd guess they sold significantly fewer than 50,000 copies. |
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Post by Seamus on Jan 27, 2007 12:40:05 GMT -5
This doesn't cover album just box office. It's pretty respectable gross without dvd.
From LA Times: Though "Open Season," Sony Pictures Animation's first feature release, received decidedly mixed reviews from critics, the family comedy took in $84.3 million domestically and $101.6 million more internationally. The film is also nominated for six Annie Awards including best animated feature, though it has steep competition from "Cars" and "Happy Feet."
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Post by cford on Jan 30, 2007 10:43:36 GMT -5
This doesn't cover album just box office. It's pretty respectable gross without dvd. From LA Times: Though "Open Season," Sony Pictures Animation's first feature release, received decidedly mixed reviews from critics, the family comedy took in $84.3 million domestically and $101.6 million more internationally. The film is also nominated for six Annie Awards including best animated feature, though it has steep competition from "Cars" and "Happy Feet." I've seen those numbers... what I am a little unclear on is if that is considered good or disappointing sales. CF |
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Post by Kathy on Jan 30, 2007 13:32:56 GMT -5
This doesn't cover album just box office. It's pretty respectable gross without dvd. From LA Times: Though "Open Season," Sony Pictures Animation's first feature release, received decidedly mixed reviews from critics, the family comedy took in $84.3 million domestically and $101.6 million more internationally. The film is also nominated for six Annie Awards including best animated feature, though it has steep competition from "Cars" and "Happy Feet." I've seen those numbers... what I am a little unclear on is if that is considered good or disappointing sales. CF It's not Shrek money but it all depends on the budget -- if it cost $50 million to make it (I'm guessing) and made nearly $200 million in box office, that's a pretty good return on investment. |
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Post by ih8music on Jan 30, 2007 16:17:51 GMT -5
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Post by Kathy on Jan 30, 2007 18:18:37 GMT -5
I looked up the budget and it was $85 million, and it's made $200 million to date....I guess I don't understand the movie business cause a gross profit of $115 million would not disappoint me! |
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Post by MikeR on Jan 30, 2007 18:36:41 GMT -5
I looked up the budget and it was $85 million, and it's made $200 million to date....I guess I don't understand the movie business cause a gross profit of $115 million would not disappoint me! I guess the Hollywood way of thinking is that they can only afford to make so many $85,000,000 movies, so the ones they do make have to rake in massive profits to be considered successful... |
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Post by BronxTeacher on Jan 30, 2007 19:53:11 GMT -5
I looked up the budget and it was $85 million, and it's made $200 million to date....I guess I don't understand the movie business cause a gross profit of $115 million would not disappoint me! My understanding from film class (I minored in film studies) is that a film needs to make at least twice its budget in order to be considered 'successful'. IIRC the budget you mention is the cost of making the film itself and does not include advertising and marketing costs, which typically doubles the cost. I could be wrong on about the reasoning...but I'm pretty certain about the 2x budget=success mentality. In any event, Open Season would still be considered a success. |
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Post by timtoast on Jan 30, 2007 21:27:42 GMT -5
It doesn't look like the new DVD contains any bonus "behind the scenes" Westerberg material. If someone sits through the director's commentary, please let us know if there's any mention of Paul.
....'cause I know I sure won't sit through the commentary. The movie was just so-so to begin with.
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Post by jd19jd on Jan 31, 2007 0:31:06 GMT -5
It's a long haul for a film to make money in a theatrical release. Let's say a film costs fifty million to make and another 15 million to get into the theater (guesstimate for distribution and advertising). If said film grosses 115 million that would seem to be a hit. 115 - (50 + 15) = 50 million scoots, not bad. One must not forget that the studio only gets a percentage of the box office. That percentage fluctuates wildly. A highly anticipated film could take 85% - 90% of the opening week gross. Subsequent weeks are usually renegotiated depending on the success of the film. I believe a film with modest aspirations usually sees a 50% cut. If we go back to the previous numbers, and use a generous overall split of 65% we get 75 million revenue on a 65 million investment. In this case 10 million isn't bad but it can seen what a tricky game this can be. This why home sales/cable/rental/foreign money have become so important. I think that a film is considered pretty darn successful if it breaks even at the box office.
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Post by MikeR on Jan 31, 2007 18:47:39 GMT -5
There is also the factor that movie studios are notoriously hard to pin down on their actual costs and profits for any particular film. Because the compensation of certain participants is often tied to some percentage of various measures of revenue or profit, it can be in a studio's interest to exaggerate expenses and/or under-report income...
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Post by cford on Feb 2, 2007 9:48:26 GMT -5
It doesn't look like the new DVD contains any bonus "behind the scenes" Westerberg material. If someone sits through the director's commentary, please let us know if there's any mention of Paul. ....'cause I know I sure won't sit through the commentary. The movie was just so-so to begin with. I'll sit through it for you when I get the dvd in a few days... I am guessing the the commentary will probably be better than the actual movie. CF |
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Post by scoOter on Feb 2, 2007 12:12:20 GMT -5
It doesn't look like the new DVD contains any bonus "behind the scenes" Westerberg material. If someone sits through the director's commentary, please let us know if there's any mention of Paul. ....'cause I know I sure won't sit through the commentary. The movie was just so-so to begin with. I'll sit through it for you when I get the dvd in a few days... I am guessing the the commentary will probably be better than the actual movie. CF yeah, my 5 year old liked the movie, but damn, it was pretty bad. still.... *cranks 'wild as i wanna be' (paul version)* |
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Post by A Regular on Feb 4, 2007 17:21:00 GMT -5
It doesn't look like the new DVD contains any bonus "behind the scenes" Westerberg material. If someone sits through the director's commentary, please let us know if there's any mention of Paul. ....'cause I know I sure won't sit through the commentary. The movie was just so-so to begin with. I'll sit through it for you when I get the dvd in a few days... I am guessing the the commentary will probably be better than the actual movie. CF Commentary was pretty standard, stroking all those that worked on it. PW was noted a few times, mentioned that he was in the Replacements, that Good Day was originally written about a "friend" that died, the the lyrics of I Belong are tweaked from a question "Is this where I belong" to This is where I belong" later in the movie. One thing I wanted to hear is if Better than This was written for the intro scene, I suspected it was with the mention of "riding in the back of your car" fitting that scene. They mentioned they listed to tons of songs for the first scene before settling on the Talking Heads song. I'll have to synch the PW tune with the video to see how it works. |
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Post by burningwheel on Feb 11, 2007 10:26:53 GMT -5
i though the movie was good! i had interest in seeing it before i knew paul worked on the soundtrack. granted it's no pixar film. i consider myself very picky well it comes to animated films. by the way i hate shrek
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Post by cford on Feb 12, 2007 12:26:28 GMT -5
i though the movie was good! i had interest in seeing it before i knew paul worked on the soundtrack. granted it's no pixar film. i consider myself very picky well it comes to animated films. by the way i hate shrek I finally rented it...It didn't hold my twelver year old's attention..Maybe he's a little old. The commentary talks mainly about the technical challenges each scene faced. It does make you appreciate it visually. There were a few token Westerberg references as mentioned earlier. The story itself is a little weak. I don't think I'll buy it until it shows up in the bargain bins. CF |
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