MacGyver
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Post by MacGyver on Sept 20, 2005 15:34:12 GMT -5
Definitely PTMM for this guy. Was the first Mats record I listened to, and have loved it ever since.
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Post by cellarfullofnoise on Sept 20, 2005 15:49:57 GMT -5
Tim. Love PTMM but there's something brittle about it. Tim oozes.
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Post by Guitardude23 on Sept 20, 2005 15:51:50 GMT -5
Tim is your drinking buddy you can tell all your problems too, PTMM is the drinking buddy you can just have a kick ass rockin' time with...
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MacGyver
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Post by MacGyver on Sept 20, 2005 15:52:37 GMT -5
Tim. Love PTMM but there's something brittle about it. Tim oozes. I find the production of PTMM alot better too, the power behind the drums is incredible. |
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Post by FirstAveFiend on Sept 20, 2005 15:52:53 GMT -5
Had to go with Tim as well. Love PTMM but, its not Tim. *plugs in Ipod and cues up Hold My Life*
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Post by kgp on Sept 20, 2005 17:09:17 GMT -5
As bad as everyone thinks Tim's production is, I'd say Please To Meet Me's is worse.
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Wolfdog
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Post by Wolfdog on Sept 20, 2005 17:18:34 GMT -5
I think the cd versions of both of these suffer from the rush and greed of record companies to get their catalogs out on CD in the late 80's.
Some CD's were mastered from cassette copies, rather than 2 track reel masters or the multitrack originals. (the worst example is MCA's original Who CD's)
Hopefully soon we get actual remasters of both of these. And if we are really lucky, they find the original multitrack reels.
...and as far as Tim vs PTMM.....its a close call, but PTMM became the blueprint of how I wanted to play guitar and write songs. And it still is.
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Post by GoddamnJob290 on Sept 20, 2005 18:48:19 GMT -5
Tim, for "Left of the Dial" alone.
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Post by fungo on Sept 21, 2005 17:20:46 GMT -5
"Tim" is one of my five favorite albums of all time, but "PTMM" is at the top of my list.
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Post by cellarfullofnoise on Sept 21, 2005 17:25:59 GMT -5
We Tim people don't play fair. One way or another PTMM will be at least one vote shy.
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Post by deebee76 on Sept 21, 2005 19:27:28 GMT -5
As good as PTMM is, Tim is the 'Mats best record, IMO, if not the very pinnacle of Paul's writing with the 'Mats...
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Post by timtoast on Sept 21, 2005 20:09:18 GMT -5
I gotta go with PTMM for Can't Hardly Wait and Alex Chilton. And that's in total disregard to Paul naming the album after me.
I've never read anything about who Tim is, anyway. Anyone know the story?
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MWells
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Post by MWells on Sept 21, 2005 22:11:06 GMT -5
Wow. This is some "Sophie's Choice"!
Not sure I can make it, actually, but what Paul said in his rapid fire "reviews" of the Mats records in the CFMT dvd comes to mind. TIM - "Coulda been". PTMM - "Frightened". (And still a toss-up as "frightened" can make for some pretty great r 'n' r - and does!)
Also, as regards calling the record "Tim", I read somewhere (in the "All For Nothing" linernotes, I think) it might've been an homage to Monty Python and The Holy Grail - when the knights ask the sorcerer his name, "Some call me...Tim".
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Post by mcharter on Sept 22, 2005 5:53:53 GMT -5
Tim for me..too left of the dial...just beautiful
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Post by shoplifter on Sept 22, 2005 8:57:24 GMT -5
The spirit of "Pleased"...that's what gets me. Mars' drumming is superb throughout. Paul's writing had turned a new corner, IMO. The perfect blend of bratty and brainy. I just wish they'd included "P.O. Box" and "Make This Your Home" on the final album!
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Post by brianlux on Sept 22, 2005 10:28:47 GMT -5
Definitely "Tim" for me but if can find "The Replacements, An Interview with Paul Westerberg" vinyl on Sire records check it out. It's basically "Pleased to Meet Me" with interview segments spliced between, and relating, to each song with Paul interviewd by Julie Panebianco.
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turtle
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Post by turtle on Sept 22, 2005 12:58:44 GMT -5
PTMM for me. I got a little story...
I was a junior in High School when it came out and I was completely obsessed. One day my creative writing teacher asked if anyone had some music they would like to play while we worked on an assignment. Of course I had PTMM in my pocket (If I couldn't listen to it, at least I could touch it!) so I played Alex Chilten, I Don't Know, and Night Club Jitters. Not only did the teacher say that she really liked it, but a girl who I thought was the coolest kid in school (and who I would never have the nerve to talk to) came right up to me and asked who that was and started talking about music. So I got into a whole new circle of friends because of PTMM.
Viva la PTMM!
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Post by DaveinDK on Sept 22, 2005 13:02:20 GMT -5
I'll go with PTMM. One of the top five rock and roll records ever made.
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Post by scoOter on Sept 22, 2005 16:39:05 GMT -5
I just wish they'd included "P.O. Box" and "Make This Your Home" on the final album! true 'DAT! |
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Marz
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Post by Marz on Sept 23, 2005 8:06:05 GMT -5
PTMM , because they recorded it in Memphis and wore Dr. Seuss hats to a dinner to celebrate finishing it and hid their desserts under the hats. Who hasn't done that?
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