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Post by teddinard on Jan 18, 2017 8:20:53 GMT -5
I'm a 21st century boy all the way. I just can't really penetrate a lot of the 1990s stuff whereas the post 2000 material goes straight to me.
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Post by FreeRider on Jan 18, 2017 12:34:48 GMT -5
I dig all of it. Except for Dead Man's Shake. I even like Grandpaboy's Last Stand better than Dead Man's. It was just....ehhhhh. Except for Vampires and Failures.
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Post by pm on Jan 18, 2017 13:47:01 GMT -5
21st Century for sure. The songwriting seems fresh and more spontaneous. But man, it sure would be nice to have a balance between the DIY vs. overwrought stuff.
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Post by thematsarealive on Jan 19, 2017 21:05:02 GMT -5
They're 2 totally different periods where you have the big name producers and massive budgets in the 90's vs independent basement recordings and soundtracks in the 2000's.
That's a great question though!
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Post by ClamsCasino on Jan 20, 2017 0:34:31 GMT -5
Just to muddy the waters a bit...a lot of the basement stuff from the 2000s is really just demos he cut during the '90s. That's even the case with the last record. The (arguably) best song on there, King of America, is an outtake from Eventually. Hell, my favorite of the 21st Century download albums, 3oclockreep, was mostly recorded in the '80s. The 21st Century has mostly been housecleaning.
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Post by thematsarealive on Jan 21, 2017 14:51:20 GMT -5
Just to muddy the waters a bit...a lot of the basement stuff from the 2000s is really just demos he cut during the '90s. That's even the case with the last record. The (arguably) best song on there, King of America, is an outtake from Eventually. Hell, my favorite of the 21st Century download albums, 3oclockreep, was mostly recorded in the '80s. The 21st Century has mostly been housecleaning. You named the 2 big examples with the 80's stuff with Waits and King of America/Born for Me on the last record. Also, having Good Day put on the Open Season soundtrack. Message to the Boys was written mostly in the 90s too. But aside from that: Open Season, Folker, Mono, Stereo, 49:00, Come Feel Me Tremble, I Don't Cares, etc... were all new stuff. He put out way more new stuff in the 2000s! He only really had those 3 records in the 90s.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Jan 21, 2017 17:35:47 GMT -5
But aside from that: Open Season, Folker, Mono, Stereo, 49:00, Come Feel Me Tremble, I Don't Cares, etc... were all new stuff. Hm, were they though? We know for a fact that the I Don't Cares album was cleaning out old tapes. That was the whole premise of the record--Juliana was going through his old demos. Same with 49:00. Paul said himself it was a patchwork quilt of old stuff that he wanted to get out there before he lost or recorded over it. It's difficult to get a timeline on most of his 21st century output, given the way he's been excavating old demos alongside writing and recording new stuff.
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Post by thematsarealive on Jan 22, 2017 13:46:58 GMT -5
But aside from that: Open Season, Folker, Mono, Stereo, 49:00, Come Feel Me Tremble, I Don't Cares, etc... were all new stuff. It's difficult to get a timeline on most of his 21st century output, given the way he's been excavating old demos alongside writing and recording new stuff. Yeah, that's totally on point. I would assume most of the I Don't Cares stuff is relatively new but who knows? It would be great if Paul put together a box set of all the unreleased basement stuff.
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Post by FreeRider on Feb 3, 2017 15:33:59 GMT -5
That's why it kills me whenever Paul says he's running out of ADAT tape and is recording over other tunes. He really needs an archivist and to have Darren or someone save that stuff. Maybe he feels like it's just crap, or it becomes therapy for him and the stuff is too personal for release? but hell---why not let the fans have a listen to stuff that isn't too personal.
I mean, a lot of people didn't care much for Grandpaboy's Last Stand, but I dug it because I didn't take it too seriously. I actually think it's kind of funny, Paul making up all these different characters....stupid stuff like, "Love You In Reverse" and hearing the producer character saying in the background, "where are the guitars?"
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Post by rich1 on Feb 3, 2017 22:16:20 GMT -5
Here is my ranking: 1) 49:00 --his very best post Mats 2. Come Feel Me Tremble--some great cuts and fun filler 3.) Stereo Mono--- same as CTMT 4.) 13 Songs-- overall solid, some fluff....some too safe.... really Paul...you can't say the obscenity in Mannequin shop?? You never would have let that slide with the Mats
The others albums have their moments--- but don't matter much to me. Paul...and the Mats.. work best with less "production" and when the lyrics are not over written.... speak from the heart Paul on take one or two...
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