Nudge
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Post by Nudge on Nov 2, 2003 0:29:41 GMT -5
i believe these to be the lyrics for both takes feel free to correct me on these. here goes
crackle and drag (original take)
she made a good go for a weeping willow, closed all the window and made herself a pillow and her limbs clung to the ground she laid her head down her hair was dirty in february she was 30 in 1963 thousand seconds more on the oven door she took a long deep breath, while her baby slept
made a good go for a weeping willow with a coldfish stare shes cursed with insight and you can't repair she broken inside she made a good go for a weeping willow she closed the windows and made herself a pillow and took a long deep breath, while her baby slept and the cadillac creeps in your body bag and the blacks crackle and drag blacks crackle and drag blacks crackle and drag blacks crackle and drag
crackle and drag (alternate take) whats the matter here, you never repair the ladies cursed with insight you never fix her with a cold stare shes all broken inside she made a good go like a weeping willow her limbs clung to the ground she closed the window and made a pillow and laid her head down and as her baby slept she took a long deep breath now they're zippin her up in a bag, can you hear the blacks crackle and drag and the cadillacs waiting to take her away can you hear the blacks crackle and drag
another head cold another spirit old mmm february, her hair was dirty she was 30 in 1963 and while her baby slept she took a long deep breath and they're zippin her up in a bag can you hear the blacks crackle and drag cadillacs waiting to take her away can you hear the blacks crackle and drag and drag x5
she made a good go for a weeping willow, she stuffed some rags on the floor she closed the window, she made a pillow on the oven door and took a long deep breath, while her baby slept now they're zippin her up in a bag, can you hear the blacks crackle and drag and the cadillacs waiting to take her away, can you hear the blacks crackle and drag
zippin her up in a bag, can you hear the blacks crackle and drag the cadillacs waiting to take her away hear the blacks crackle and drag hear the blacks crackle and drag
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Post by ClamsCasino on Nov 2, 2003 3:56:52 GMT -5
She's "cursed with insight" in both versions, not "she's cursed me inside" or "cursed with inside."
Also, he says "Can you hear her blacks..." not "the" blacks.
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Post by paulie on Nov 2, 2003 20:24:37 GMT -5
those are some of pauls most powerful lyrics. definitly my favorite on this c.d.
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Post by RecordedInStereo on Nov 3, 2003 2:26:05 GMT -5
The line "Her blacks crackle and drag" is from a Sylvia Plath poem called "Edge" I'm pretty sure the song is about her.
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gymy
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Post by gymy on Dec 16, 2003 20:33:48 GMT -5
the sylvia plath poem, 'edge'....... i believe it was the last poem in the last book of her poetry published before her death:
Edge by Sylvia Plath
The woman is perfected. Her dead
Body wears the smile of accomplishment, The illusion of a Greek necessity
Flows in the scrolls of her toga, Her bare
Feet seem to be saying: We have come so far, it is over.
Each dead child coiled, a white serpent, One at each little
Pitcher of milk, now empty. She has folded
Them back into her body as petals Of a rose close when the garden
Stiffens and odors bleed From the sweet, deep throats of the night flower.
The moon has nothing to be sad about, Staring from her hood of bone.
She is used to this sort of thing. Her blacks crackle and drag.
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Post by TomT on Jan 4, 2004 6:45:33 GMT -5
I believe this is the poem that she wrote just before she commit suicide. Or was that "Woman Without Ties"? Would this title be the inspiration for Paul's "Man Without Ties"? Jenin, do you have the words for this one? Anything about TV dinners?
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Post by loraaw on Jan 7, 2004 11:56:31 GMT -5
Am I missing something? So I understand that "her blacks crackle and drag" is from a Plath poem, but what the heck does it mean? I just love the lyrics to this song, but the one line I don't understand is driving me crazy.
Thanks, laura
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Post by loraaw on Jan 7, 2004 12:04:26 GMT -5
Opps, i just realized the question I just posed about "the blacks" is discussed in a thread further down on the board about this song. I like the curtain explanation. But I guess we can't know for sure. - Laura
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Post by ElegantMule on Jan 9, 2004 22:17:15 GMT -5
I'm not much into poetry analysis, but that last poen of Plath's always sends shivers down my spine. Partially because it was her last one, partially because the imagery is so effing intense. I need to try to read her stuff again.
I guess she was a perfectionist - writing lines over and over until they worked out. She also wrote poems, laid them aside, and then picked them up weeks or months later to edit them further. Moreso than others of her group.
I also think she was a stickler for form, as in these are traditionally metred poems, but I am going off what I have read.
My only comment is that I think "baby" is plural - just because I am pretty sure SP had two little ones.
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Post by grendel on Feb 5, 2004 9:34:32 GMT -5
In both versions of this song, Paul says something that sounds like the letters "E , M" at the very start of the song. Anyone know what he saying?
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Post by Caroline on Feb 5, 2004 12:38:35 GMT -5
In both versions of this song, Paul says something that sounds like the letters "E , M" at the very start of the song. Anyone know what he saying? Here's my take: I think on the original version he's saying "the end" - don't know why but that's what it sounds like to me. On the alt version I think he's saying "and" - as if he's counting the beats before beginning ( "1 and 2 and" ).
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Post by claypigeon on Feb 5, 2004 16:35:54 GMT -5
I also always thought he was saying "3 and..." as if he was counting off the start of the song. However, if that's what it is, it's kind of odd because the song would be starting on 4 which it doesn't.
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Post by ClamsCasino on Feb 5, 2004 16:46:49 GMT -5
Yeah, we went through this on another thread. I think he's definitely counting the track in. He does it on numerous songs dating as far back as "They're Blind" and he even did it solo live. It's just a mumbled, "3 and..." or "2 and..." or whatever's appropriate for the song's rhythm.
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zook
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Post by zook on Feb 5, 2004 18:17:32 GMT -5
You want to hear my take? I think Paul has a advertisement deal with 3M and he is not saying "...3 and..." but getting the 3M brand name out there. You laugh but did you know that 3M corporate headquarters is not far from Minneapolis and they are a leading maker of duct tape which Paul loves to use (witness the taping of the shoes in the beginning of CFMT.) It's a natural tie-in - Paul gets some well deserved dough, all the duct tape he can use and corporate sponsorship of the Folker Tour and they get Paul.
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Post by torethatbridgeout on Feb 5, 2004 21:50:12 GMT -5
You want to hear my take? I think Paul has a advertisement deal with 3M and he is not saying "...3 and..." but getting the 3M brand name out there. You laugh but did you know that 3M corporate headquarters is not far from Minneapolis and they are a leading maker of duct tape which Paul loves to use (witness the taping of the shoes in the beginning of CFMT.) It's a natural tie-in - Paul gets some well deserved dough, all the duct tape he can use and corporate sponsorship of the Folker Tour and they get Paul. He had to agree to no wardrobe malfunctions though, the sellout.
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Post by grendel on Mar 3, 2004 13:02:12 GMT -5
"You're both right. It's a dessert topping and a floor wax." ;D
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Post by AndyMats on Mar 4, 2004 11:21:42 GMT -5
As a 3M representative, I luv the 3M explanation. I cannot confirm or deny a deal.
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evin
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Post by evin on Mar 6, 2004 10:48:39 GMT -5
I wonder how many people that are Paul Westerberg fans went out and bought a book with Sylvia Plath's work just from this song.
A friend gave me a book of her's containing SP poems. I did not ask for it, she simply noticed the song and said here you go read this. I read about 20 or 30 pages and haven't picked it up since.
Evin
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Post by ClamsCasino on Mar 6, 2004 17:33:00 GMT -5
I wonder how many people that are Paul Westerberg fans went out and bought a book with Sylvia Plath's work just from this song. I'd be surprised if anyone who made it through high school level lit. classes hasn't already read at least a little Sylvia Plath.
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Post by torethatbridgeout on Mar 7, 2004 2:46:26 GMT -5
Never traveled far down the paaaaath without ... If it's true as I've heard that he didn't play C&D at Northampton, PW may have skipped the introductory bio info.
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