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Post by torethatbridgeout on Jan 4, 2004 18:52:33 GMT -5
Anyone know any legends behind the album titles? I thought I knew some but I don't really know too many.
Sorry Ma, Forgot to Take Out the Trash - ?
Stink - ?
Shit Hits the Fans - ?
Hootenanny - song title/lyric
Let It Be - ?
Tim - ??
Pleased to Meet Me - something they said when shaking hands with record label muckety-mux as a joke
Don't Tell a Soul - song lyric
All Shook Down - song title/lyric
Don't Buy or Sell, It's Crap - ?
14 Songs - Randy Newman? JD Salinger?
Eventually - ? The old Pillsbury slogan?
Suicaine Gratifaction - ?
Grandpaboy- ?
Stereo/Mono - ?
Dead Man Shake - song title/lyric
Come Feel Me Tremble - tour slogan but ?
Folker - PW said he was surprised the title hadn't been used before, is looking forward to hearing DJs in different parts of the country pronounce it
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Post by ElegantMule on Jan 4, 2004 22:59:16 GMT -5
I'll try to help:
Hootenanny: Was this tied to the album cover? Which was a ripoff of those 50's VA albums? I am sure someone here knows. I saw the original record in a store once and I laughed my ass off. I never knew Hootenanny was ripped off too.
Let it Be: bravado - pure and simple. One of the biggest ripoffs ever and it's beautiful.
Shit Hits the Fans: play on words
14 Songs: I thought this was a play on Salinger's 9 Stories.
Don't Buy or Sell, It's Crap: Literal interpretation, I'm thinking.
Anyone sensing a pattern with the Mats stuff? I guess I never realized how much they ripped off from people...at least they had taste in what the took.
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Post by fungo on Jan 5, 2004 2:20:16 GMT -5
I'll try to help: Let it Be: bravado - pure and simple. One of the biggest ripoffs ever and it's beautiful. Think I read somewhere that the original title for Tim was going to be Let It Bleed. |
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Post by torethatbridgeout on Jan 5, 2004 2:59:52 GMT -5
Hootenanny: Was this tied to the album cover? Which was a ripoff of those 50's VA albums? I am sure someone here knows. I saw the original record in a store once and I laughed my ass off. I never knew Hootenanny was ripped off too. Let it Be: bravado - pure and simple. One of the biggest ripoffs ever and it's beautiful. Shit Hits the Fans: play on words 14 Songs: I thought this was a play on Salinger's 9 Stories. Don't Buy or Sell, It's Crap: Literal interpretation, I'm thinking. Anyone sensing a pattern with the Mats stuff? I guess I never realized how much they ripped off from people...at least they had taste in what the took. Good point on the pattern. Hootenanny: Yeah, I recently actually paid money for one of those 50s or early 60s albums, just for the cover. It was volume 2 of probably many volumes of live tracks compiled from the TV show of the same name. On the others, I'm just wondering if there are stories about even where the play on words or whatever come from or what the occasion was. Mostly Paul's head I suppose. |
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Post by duckfoot on Jan 5, 2004 10:19:57 GMT -5
This is what I have read about the albums:
Hootenany's cover was done by Grant Hart of Husker Du. He had some side art project which he did under a different name.
"Stink" was supposed to be called "Too Poor to Tour".
"Let it Be" was a joke on their manager who was a huge Beatles fan. They figured it would drive him nuts.
"Tim" I think if I remember correctly has something to do with a friend who went to college and dropped out.
"Please to Meet Me" was a spoof on some Elvis movie. I think it was a take off of a real movie poster.
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Post by prozach on Jan 5, 2004 10:35:52 GMT -5
Think I read somewhere that the original title for Tim was going to be Let It Bleed. You guys know way more than I do, but I think I read the same thing. Paul loved that the Stones responded to 'Let It Be' with 'Let It Bleed' and wanted to use both names in a row. |
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Post by TomT on Jan 5, 2004 10:57:08 GMT -5
I've heard the rumor of Tim being named for the character in the Monty Python movie "Holy Grail". Also that it was named for the Sire exec who was hassling them about the album.
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Post by go21bucs on Jan 5, 2004 11:08:12 GMT -5
"Please to Meet Me" was a spoof on some Elvis movie. I think it was a take off of a real movie poster. The cover of Elvis' "GI Blues" is definitely the one that the Mats "ripped off." PTMM is definitely one of my favorite all-time covers. It makes up for the lack of appeal of the cover for CFMT....the pic of Paul on it is ok, but I've never liked how the title is just put into that corner box. |
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Post by claypigeon on Jan 5, 2004 11:42:51 GMT -5
Sorry Ma was originally going to be called, I believe, "Power Trash" to describe the sound of the album.
Tim - In the All For Nothing notes Tommy Ramone says it was either someone they knew or the Monty Python character
14 Songs - Could be the Salinger reference, that would explain the book on the cover. Paul has always said the point of that album was to reintroduce himself as a songwriter, and that's why I thought the title was just meant to be as simple and self-explanatory as possible. Kind of like Stereo/Mono.
Suicaine Gratifaction - The only thing I ever heard about this was a quote by Paul saying something like, "You know how when you have a word in your mind and you think you know what it means and then one day you find out that the word doesn't even exist?" I also remember at one point the album was going to be called "Mr. Inappropriate" from Bookmark.
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Post by torethatbridgeout on Jan 5, 2004 12:10:45 GMT -5
I have my doubts on Salinger. I think "14 Songs" is the CD-era update of Randy Newman's "12 Songs" LP. I think I read that somewheres, though it could have just been a no-nothing critic riffing.
I guy named Tim gets the photo credit for the picture of Bob on the back of Sorry Ma. I sort of knew him and last time I saw him at a U2 show at First Ave. in very early 80s, he was indeed going to college and making Matslike disparaging remarks about it. Could be him, though I'd think the label guy is more likely it. I remember them saying they had to name the album so they decided to give it a real name.
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Post by Kathy on Jan 5, 2004 12:15:39 GMT -5
14 Songs - Could be the Salinger reference, that would explain the book on the cover. I read that he got it from 9 Stories, it might be in the interview that's in the limited edition book. On Eventually, I think I read that they bounced around titles forever and finally settled on Eventually since that's when he kept telling people it would be done. SG - A jumble of Suicide/Novacaine and Satisfaction/Gratification k. |
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Post by Kathy on Jan 5, 2004 12:17:05 GMT -5
oh and Dead Man Shake - doesn;t he say in the DVD that he shook hands with John Lee Hooker and it was like shaking hands with a dead man? I figured that was the genesis of the song title...
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Post by landshark on Jan 5, 2004 18:35:12 GMT -5
"All Shook Down," plays on Elvis's "All Shook Up," of course, but also punning on "shake down," a mugging or a rip-off.
"Eventually" ... always liked to think of it as a follow up to "Something is Me" on "14 Songs":
"something's gotta change
eventually
something is me"
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Post by ElegantMule on Jan 5, 2004 20:33:36 GMT -5
Ugh! You people play right into my mild obsessive compulsive disorder. But I knew buying the "limited edition" 14 Songs book release would pay off someday. From the interview:
"...I just got done rereading all of the JD Salinger stories. I went on a big jag while making the record - that's actually where we copped the title from: Nine Stories. I had more than nine songs, though."
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Post by ElegantMule on Jan 5, 2004 20:39:00 GMT -5
That is brilliant. I wish they had called it that. Then again, getting to say "The Replacements Stink" is pretty fun.
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Post by jodi, queen of the underground on Jan 6, 2004 18:40:33 GMT -5
Suicaine Gratifaction - The only thing I ever heard about this was a quote by Paul saying something like, "You know how when you have a word in your mind and you think you know what it means and then one day you find out that the word doesn't even exist?" I also remember at one point the album was going to be called "Mr. Inappropriate" from Bookmark. i thought they were gonna call it "it's a wonderful lie." |
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Post by grandpaboysfriend on Jan 7, 2004 12:35:51 GMT -5
like claypigeon, i also heard that suicaine was originally going to be called "mr. inapproprite".
seemed he was, once the label changed presidents.
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Post by duckfoot on Jan 8, 2004 10:29:08 GMT -5
I forgot that I also read that there were two other titles the Mats toyed with for "Let it Be". One was "Get a Soft On" and the other was "Kind of Sewer". Thankfully they dropped both titles.
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Post by torethatbridgeout on Jan 9, 2004 17:37:02 GMT -5
good memory, duck. actually I kinda like the first one
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Post by adamapple on Jan 9, 2004 17:44:32 GMT -5
i always liked the story about ptmm....it came from a saying of tommy's, which was to anyone he met he would depart by saying "pleased to meet me, the pleasure is all yours"....and then when shooting the cover...they had to hire a hand model cause none of them owned a watch...and thats pauls paw in their shaking the money man...lalalalalalalalaal
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