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Post by zook on Jan 14, 2004 12:55:29 GMT -5
I love Otto! One of my favs from that album.
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Post by gravy on Jan 14, 2004 12:59:54 GMT -5
[when they did that "Iris" song (which makes me want to eat the business end of a Mossberg 12 gauge every time I hear it),
The version in the actual "city of angels" movie is just John & his guitar and is actually really good. Note to musicians, just adding a string section doesn't make you a more important artist.
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Post by prozach on Jan 14, 2004 14:07:39 GMT -5
Maybe instead of Bon Jovi a better comparison would be the Goo Goo Dolls, a band that clearly strayed from their original direction and fan base once they saw their first big check. Valid point (though I'm still glad I got to post Jon's 'two pizzas' quote).
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Post by elgoodo on Jan 14, 2004 14:18:43 GMT -5
Paul is an artist... Jon is an entertainer... (big difference in the two)
I have a hard time even reconciling how Bon Jovi and Def Leppard can even be brought up on this board... I mean, they were the enemy, man...
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Post by prozach on Jan 14, 2004 14:38:00 GMT -5
And Prozach quietly steps backwards out of the room
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Post by Monkey on Jan 14, 2004 14:40:01 GMT -5
I have a hard time even reconciling how Bon Jovi and Def Leppard can even be brought up on this board... I mean, they were the enemy, man... I'm with you, but we'd all better prepare ourselves for HairMetalDisaster 2.0 now that the Darkness is getting airplay trying to make that shit cool again.
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Post by duckfoot on Jan 14, 2004 14:53:29 GMT -5
Oh no! You mean that band that tries to sound like Queen with the screaching banshee lead singer? That dude sounds like he sucked half a balloon of helium and drank a quart of Red Bull. Oh the horror............
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Post by gravy on Jan 14, 2004 14:55:50 GMT -5
Duckfoot,
With something that awful (and by God it is) you must use the Irish logic as taught to me by my father & his father before him "if you ignore the problem long enough, it will go away."
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Post by prozach on Jan 14, 2004 15:07:28 GMT -5
So to answer your question, if I could play the kind of music I wanted and do what I wanted with my career AND make a wad of cash, sure I'd do it. . By the way, thanks. This is the kind of answer I was haphazardly drving at.
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Post by Monkey on Jan 14, 2004 15:55:29 GMT -5
Oh no! You mean that band that tries to sound like Queen with the screaching banshee lead singer? That dude sounds like he sucked half a balloon of helium and drank a quart of Red Bull. Oh the horror............ Exactly, the song is becoming inescapable (Christ, I heard it as part of the pre-concert tunes at a David Bowie show this weekend) and between them and Andrew WK, I'm pretty sure we're in for a metal revival.
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Post by GtrPlyr on Jan 14, 2004 16:57:39 GMT -5
I think, when JBJ was growing up in Jersey, he wanted to be Bruce Springsteen. Somewhere down that path, he got sidetracked, and the rest is history. When Paul was growing up in MPLS, he was influenced by the likes of, Johnny Thunders, and The Rolling Stones. Unlike JBJ, Paul didn't stray from his path. Instead he made it a little bit wider and longer, and eventually, he cut a new path of his own... I should of used a river analogy like PW!
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Post by adamapple on Jan 14, 2004 17:40:35 GMT -5
jon bon jovi, def leppard and yes guns n rosee, are all the enemy....overblown pompous crap, ojn bob jovi is a better actor than he is a singer, adn thats saying something
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Post by Schmoo on Jan 15, 2004 19:24:46 GMT -5
I couldn't agree with El Goodo more. I think it depends on how old you are / when you grew up. I saw a real good band the other night that inexplicably (to me anyway) covered Poison's "talk dirty to me". After realizing that they were all roughly 21 years old, I could better understand their decision to play that song. They didn't grow up in the 80's, having that crap shoved down their throats every day, on every radio station. Plus, having to tolerate the idiots that listened to it.
The point of Paul being an artist is well taken also. Hair metal, IMHO, was / is nothing more than a vehicle to get laid. Very different than real music.
I remember my first year of college, being pretty drunk, riding in a buddy's car. He was messing with me, blasting bon jovi on the radio. I threatened to bail, he didn't believe me, and I bailed while we were going about 30 mph. A concussion, fractured wrist, nasty case of road rash on the back, but it was worth it, to make a point.
So clearly, I choose Paul and Paul's way.
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Post by duckfoot on Jan 16, 2004 7:55:20 GMT -5
It may have been the Musician magazine article and once again, I may get the story wrong due to too many years and too many beers, but anyway.....I read that Paul and Dan Baird (Sorry if I got the name wrong, The Singer/Guitarist from The Georgia Sattelites) were in a bar hanging out. The waitress asked Paul if they were in a band, I guess thinking they were in some hair band. Remember, the Mats had rather funky hair around the time of PTMM into DTAS. Paul told her that he and Dan were in the Ramones. After that, she never came back to get them their drinks or something like that. I think that shows that Paul's music was never about image. But then, we all knew that after all. Hair Metal was all about image. I had to suffer through it's hayday. It was not easy when your freshman year dorm is filled with music majors all trying to out "Dokken" each other.
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Post by zook on Jan 16, 2004 10:14:53 GMT -5
I remember my first year of college, being pretty drunk, riding in a buddy's car. He was messing with me, blasting bon jovi on the radio. I threatened to bail, he didn't believe me, and I bailed while we were going about 30 mph. A concussion, fractured wrist, nasty case of road rash on the back, but it was worth it, to make a point. quote] And that point was to show how stupid college students are when they're drunk? I admire your convictions Schmooey but question your methods. Perhaps an opening of the car door and pretending you were about to jump might have been as effective. I think you out-Pauled Paul on that one - I'm not sure he would've been that dumb drunk. And let me guess - you went to Iowa
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Post by mrwhirly on Jan 17, 2004 11:22:41 GMT -5
Is it just me or does Paul look scarily close to Jon on the inner sleeve of Pleased to Meet Me.
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Post by Schmoo on Jan 17, 2004 16:08:19 GMT -5
I always thought it was funny that Jon never knew who Paul was, but managed to completley rip off his image.
I did not go to Iowa, but I am from the midwest. Of course I would never jump out of a moving car now, but no regrets, that's the way it goes when you're young and fearless.
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Post by FeelinLike100Bucks on Jan 18, 2004 5:32:12 GMT -5
In the 80's the soundsystem in my favorite bar all of the sudden went exclusively hairband. It drove me nuts. When I complained to the owner, he told me in no uncertain terms to "f*ck off."
I wasn't about to take that from this "She's My Cherry Pie," lovin, spandex wearin yanker. I carried a knife that was rusted shut tight at the time and I pulled it out and slashed that Def Leppard lovin bastard's neck till it parted like the Red Sea.
No regrets. There's a roof and 3 squares everyday in the pen. And my friend Bubba, who makes me walk funny, he understands. Bubba can't stand Quiet Riot, Ratt or Poison.
It's so nice to be understood
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Post by elgoodo on Jan 18, 2004 9:55:26 GMT -5
was the owner of the bar, by any chance, Prozach's uncle?..
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Post by prozach on Jan 18, 2004 14:07:51 GMT -5
was the owner of the bar, by any chance, Prozach's uncle?.. May he rest in peace. We pour sugar on his grave every March.
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